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Old 03-21-2013, 01:09 PM   #16
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No it is not so. It is easy to check. Download "pdf reader.rar" from this thread and view onyx_pdf_reader binary. Look for adobe.
You're right. It's not even called 'pdfreader', so it has nothing to do with the open source project of that name. My mistake.

Edit: Doh! The app on the PB is pdfviewer, not pdfreader. Sigh.

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Old 03-22-2013, 01:36 PM   #17
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Why do you think so? What exactly should i find? pdfreader is ade based reader and they worked on it last year. This is exactly what you wonted them to do, no?
No. What i wanted and i want, is to have good programs that permit me to *read* epub.
Forget pdfreader for one second and concentrate on this.

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I understand what you mean. And it is wrong. They don't fix and don't even try to fix bugs in these programs. Even simple ones. If something is not useful for you it doesn't mean it is not useful for everybody. The epub is not only format people read.
No (again): you *don't* undertand at all.

You forget that the thread you linked for download "pdfreader" contains the upgrades from Booxtor regarding CR3 and pdfreader, so don't joke please: they are still working or pdfreader and i call this to waste time with no results.
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PS: I don't have firefly and I don't read epub.
You are telling me you *don't* have a firefly and you *don't* read epubs?
And then, you have *no idea* of epub rendering on firefly, isn't it?
Ok, read this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29

It could be interesting, for you...



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PPS: They still working on Android, but this time looks like they don't port android to onyx devices but port onyx software to the android. At least what they committed right now looks very similar to booxsdk we had for linux.
Fregasega, as we say in Italy... ( more than "I dont' mind", for a quick translation)
I've paid *now* 200 euros NOT for a next_to_come android device; i've paid 200 euros for an already_here_epub_reader that does not read epub well.
This is the point.
For me, they could develop also a telepathic ereader but all i want is good device for good money NOW.

And, as last thing, this will be my last answer to your posts, at least till when you'll buy a firefly for epub reading.

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Old 03-22-2013, 02:31 PM   #18
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You forget that the thread you linked for download "pdfreader" contains the upgrades from Booxtor regarding CR3 and pdfreader
I have M92 about year now. All the bugs CR3 had year ago are still present. So it is you who probably joking about upgrades from Booxtor. Regarding pdfreader, they develop ade-based program like you wanted in the following quotation, but probably it takes more time to make program able to give much reading pleasure to their paying customers.
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I don't understand why onyx ( and german guys) waste time and resource with fbreader, pdfreader and (Arrrrgh!) coolreader instead of develop a ade-based (ok: ade is non perfect but much better than the "magnificent three") program, program capable to give much reading pleasure to their paying customers.
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they are still working or pdfreader and i call this to waste time with no results.
Now I don't understand, on what program they should work then?

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You are telling me you *don't* have a firefly and you *don't* read epubs?
Yes, I don't have firefly but I have M92 which software is identical.
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And then, you have *no idea* of epub rendering on firefly, isn't it?
Sure I have an idea.
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I've paid *now* 200 euros NOT for a next_to_come android device; i've paid 200 euros for an already_here_epub_reader that does not read epub well.
My note about android meant to say that this is a real waste of time porting their bugy software to android which has tons of different programs.
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And, as last thing, this will be my last answer to your posts
Okay, I don't see any reasons to continue this conversation.
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Old 03-23-2013, 08:06 AM   #19
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No. What i wanted and i want, is to have good programs that permit me to *read* epub.
Forget pdfreader for one second and concentrate on this.



No (again): you *don't* undertand at all.

You forget that the thread you linked for download "pdfreader" contains the upgrades from Booxtor regarding CR3 and pdfreader, so don't joke please: they are still working or pdfreader and i call this to waste time with no results.
If you have a better definition...



You are telling me you *don't* have a firefly and you *don't* read epubs?
And then, you have *no idea* of epub rendering on firefly, isn't it?
Ok, read this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29

It could be interesting, for you...





Fregasega, as we say in Italy... ( more than "I dont' mind", for a quick translation)
I've paid *now* 200 euros NOT for a next_to_come android device; i've paid 200 euros for an already_here_epub_reader that does not read epub well.
This is the point.
For me, they could develop also a telepathic ereader but all i want is good device for good money NOW.

And, as last thing, this will be my last answer to your posts, at least till when you'll buy a firefly for epub reading.

Addio

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Christ, you've made the one mistake one shouldn't make: buy a Boox reader, they NEVER EVER had a bug-free and feature-rich firmware EVER...
Get a Sony, Bookeen, Kobo, heck, a Kindle, instead...
It is save to say that this is the definitive statement about Boox readers in general...

On another note, I understand what you find annoying and I agree they should have delivered a working product (heck, no proper epub rendering...), but, Onyx is one of those companies where the principle that the future will not be like the past does NOT apply... sell your reader to another poor sod on eBay and get a new one of the above list...
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:09 AM   #20
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Old 03-23-2013, 02:07 PM   #21
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@johnnyb: sad to say but what you suggest is exactly what i'm doing... :-((

My first ereader whas onyx-boox ( 60A model, if i remember well the code-number) and i was quite satisfied by it.
Its only "bad" thing was the big button navigation system that was not so comfortable for me.

I agree your considerations about boox commercial policy....

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Old 03-24-2013, 07:25 PM   #22
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I have an Onyx Boox i62HD (not the Firefly), and I'm very happy with it. Yes, I agree it's not free of bugs, but it has functionalities that I couldn't find in any other reader.

It is my only ereader and I use it to read both pdfs (scientific articles and technical books) and epubs. I use mostly the pdfreader (I've only used the Coolreader to read an epub containing images, because it's true that pdfreader doesn't manage image sizes correctly). What I like more of the reader is the paper mode, combined with the margin crop options. I find them very useful to read multiple column papers.

Of course there are things to improve, and I hope Booxtor keeps working hard to make the product better, as he usually does (I'm looking forward the new firmware update). However, I'm very happy with my purchase, and I wouldn't change it for another one.
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My first ereader whas onyx-boox ( 60A model, if i remember well the code-number) and i was quite satisfied by it.
Its only "bad" thing was the big button navigation system that was not so comfortable for me.
I do not understand one thing. You were satisfied with A60 which has almost the same applications for reading epub as Firefly. I really doubt, applications for reading epub in Firefly are much different from those in A60. Except for new version of pdfreader, which is mainly aimed to pdf reading, not epub...

If Firefly is not able to render epub texts satisfactory for you, you do not need to sell it (and loose money), but use the warranty. If the goods does not meet the specifications and does not do, what it should do... It should not be any problem get money back. Also, you had 15 day's trial period, you had possibility to return it back without stating any reason.

I understand your frustration, if the device does not meet your needs. There is only one solution. Buy something different that suits your needs.

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I do not have Firefly, but M92. But both units share the same/similar firmware, so my experience from M92 also roughly applies to Firefly.

I may see big improvements in firmware and device usability in past 15 months. Many of us would wish the progress would be faster, but thanks God (and Booxstor ) for what has been done in past time.
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I may see big improvements in firmware and device usability in past 15 months. Many of us would wish the progress would be faster, but thanks God (and Booxstor ) for what has been done in past time.
I haven't seen any big improvements over the last 6 months and in view of the deafening silence of Booxtor in this thread, I don't expect much for the coming 6 months.
Please note: improvements (especially for the Firefly UI) were announced!!!
Guess we've been had.
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Onyx was focused on porting Android, I guess. And now hopefully again on classic firmware, I hope.

Well, we'll see... As I said before, things take time. More time than one would wish...

I guess Onyx works on firmware, there was a new Czech firmware for M92 quite recently.
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