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Old 02-18-2013, 11:50 PM   #1
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Has B&N completely left the discount world?

I've been noticing more and more on the monthly Discount/Freebies section for mystery/fiction/whatever topics that there's less and less from B&N, or pretty much ANYBODY in epub format. Is this just 'cause Amazon has taken over the entire world or is there something else going on?

For example, in February, Scott Pratt had 4 books at $.99 at Amazon (they're not $.99 any more, but that's a different problem). I can't even FIND them for the Nook at B&N. And I frequently check when I find something in this area where it's $.99 or $1.99 or $2.99 at Amazon, and if I DO find it at B&N it's $7 or $8...

It's not a huge deal 'cause I've got a Kindle reader on the Nexus, but I much prefer other readers to the limitations of the Kindle reader... And yeah, I know I could probably convert everything, but I'd prefer not to get into the whole legal/illegal converting thing...

So, is B&N just not interested in competing with Amazon, figure most people won't check prices elsewhere, or are they in so much trouble they CAN'T compete any more?
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:02 AM   #2
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In my experience, B&N has always been "more expensive" than the other guy...whoever that "other guy" was. Back before ebooks, B&N was the last place I went for books unless it was the only place I could find the books.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:34 AM   #3
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For example, in February, Scott Pratt had 4 books at $.99 at Amazon (they're not $.99 any more, but that's a different problem). I can't even FIND them for the Nook at B&N. And I frequently check when I find something in this area where it's $.99 or $1.99 or $2.99 at Amazon, and if I DO find it at B&N it's $7 or $8...
Scott Pratt's ebooks are in the KDP Select group so they are exclusive to Amazon.
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:51 AM   #4
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It is not that B&N doesn't wish to compete, it is that Amazon insists on exclusivity and many authors think that they are better off acceding to Amazon than being available on multiple platforms.

Supposedly, Amazon controls 50% to 60% of the ebook market. That leaves 40% to 50% for the ePub market. Yet most authors only think of Amazon when it comes to selling their ebooks.

I have stopped looking at the freebies/deals postings here at MR because they are almost all Amazon-only deals. Occasionally someone will post a freebie/deal for B&N, Kobo, Sony, or Smashwords, but so rarely that it is a waste of time to read all of the freebie/deals posts.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:32 AM   #5
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It is not that B&N doesn't wish to compete, it is that Amazon insists on exclusivity and many authors think that they are better off acceding to Amazon than being available on multiple platforms.
Amazon does not make exclusivity a condition to offer an author's book as an ebook, they only insist on exclusivity if an author wants their book to be made available for lending.

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The program is called KDP Select. In exchange for agreeing to sell their e-books exclusively in the Kindle Store, self-published authors can add those books to the Kindle Owners’ Lending Library, which allows Amazon Prime members who own Kindles to borrow one e-book for free each month.

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Old 02-19-2013, 10:44 AM   #6
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Just checked Amazon, B&N and Kobo for Clive Davis' memoirs. These are prices in the United States:

Amazon $12.74
B&N $16.99
Kobo $14.99

For a sample size of one book, B&N is more expensive. Anecdotally I have seen B&N more expensive than other companies for the books, music and movies I have checked but it may just be whatever I checked at that time.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:47 AM   #7
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I have stopped looking at the freebies/deals postings here at MR because they are almost all Amazon-only deals. Occasionally someone will post a freebie/deal for B&N, Kobo, Sony, or Smashwords, but so rarely that it is a waste of time to read all of the freebie/deals posts.
Don't you use Kobo coupons/discount codes posted here? I have Kindle and Amazon account(s) but I've noticed that when there are 40-45% Kobo discount codes many books were cheaper on Kobo than on Amazon....
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:07 PM   #8
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It is not that B&N doesn't wish to compete, it is that Amazon insists on exclusivity and many authors think that they are better off acceding to Amazon than being available on multiple platforms.

Supposedly, Amazon controls 50% to 60% of the ebook market. That leaves 40% to 50% for the ePub market. Yet most authors only think of Amazon when it comes to selling their ebooks.

I have stopped looking at the freebies/deals postings here at MR because they are almost all Amazon-only deals. Occasionally someone will post a freebie/deal for B&N, Kobo, Sony, or Smashwords, but so rarely that it is a waste of time to read all of the freebie/deals posts.

That's so frustrating. There are some authors whose books I had to buy at Amazon because they don't have their book in any other market. When they are told this, the response is usually something along the lines of "Well, maybe in the future it'll be available in other formats and other stores". This usually means never.
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As for B&N, I have to agree with FizzyWater. I never thought the store was very inexpensive, even when they and Borders pretty much controlled the US book market. I preferred Borders because they seemed to have better prices. So I'm not surprised that B&N usually charges more than some other book sellers.
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:25 PM   #9
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The issue goes beyond KDP Select (which is only a 180K titles or so).
The reality is that where other vendors run promos (free or non-free) for a few dozen ebooks at a time, Amazon runs promos for a few *hundred* at a time.
And, on *top* of that, they allow/encourage KDP Select participants to run their own promos. (5 Free days over 3 months.)

If you're a bargain-hunter you will at any point in time find a whole lot more deals with Kindle than with the epub crowd. And then you factor in all the *Free Kindle ebooks!* websites picking up eyeballs and clicks by sorting through the freebies and highlighting them and the visibility of the Kindle bargains starts to swamp out the visibility of the competition. (There's money in promoting free Kindle books even if they're not *your* books.)

So, no; B&N (and Kobo and Sony) still run promo discounts.
But not as many people notice or pass the tips on...

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Old 02-19-2013, 03:54 PM   #10
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Amazon doesn't only run their own promos, they price match practically everything Apple and B&N discount as well, so their reputation of having the lowest price is well earned.

I like deals and I rarely bother looking at other sites (except Kobo with their discount codes), it's not worth the effort.
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:36 PM   #11
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The issue goes beyond KDP Select (which is only a 180K titles or so).
We're up to 295,000 titles now.
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:29 PM   #12
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B&N has Daily Find discounts similar to the Kindle Daily Deal. That's how I make most purchases from them. B&N also has a weekly "Free Friday" promotion on their Nook blog.
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B&N also has 101 Nook books under $2.99:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/u/eboo...less/379003856

Like other people have said: Deals from other bookstores just not get the same publicity as those by Amazon.
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B&N has Daily Find discounts similar to the Kindle Daily Deal. That's how I make most purchases from them. B&N also has a weekly "Free Friday" promotion on their Nook blog.
How many?
Amazon *starts* with the "100 Kindle books..." monthly promo.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.htm...cId=1000706171
And it grows from there...

They have more discounted books, they have more books priced at $2.99-6.99 before promos, and they have all those discount book web sites. It adds up.

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B&N also has 101 Nook books under $2.99:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/u/eboo...less/379003856

Like other people have said: Deals from other bookstores just not get the same publicity as those by Amazon.
That may be true, but even B&N themselves do little to promote their deals. I get multiple emails for them every week and seldom are any deals mentioned.
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