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Old 04-12-2013, 10:21 PM   #91
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Sometimes its the metadata that I want to modify - but first I have to get what's in the database into the book's copy of the .opf file. Pressing 'C' to do an ePUB to ePUB conversion will do that and it will create a 'backup'.

However, having said that, I do sometimes save a separate copy of the format outside of Calibre before editing it.
For updating the metadata, having Calibre do it alone causes a conversion. There is a much better solution. Use the Modify ePub plugin. That will allow you to update the cover and the metadata without doing a conversion. All that Modify ePub does it does without any converting. Modify ePub works very well. I use it all the time.
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:51 PM   #92
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Old 04-13-2013, 12:47 AM   #93
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Modify ePub works very well. I use it all the time.
I agree Modify's great PI, I use it to delete covers and to get rid of other rubbish, but it doesn't create a 'backup' like Convert EPUB to EPUB does.

However Modify only works on ePubs, and Polish only on EPUB and AZW3 (thanks to DoctorOhh for pointing this out).

I'd like an option to 'inject' metadata from the database into the supported metadata fields in the selected format file, without making any changes to the actual content of the files, no matter what the format. If it can be 'put there' in a convert or save to disk, then it must be possible to just 'put it there' without any converting or saving.

I can do it for most common raster and vector image formats with a variety of interchangeable tools. So why not for e-books formats, which have far simpler metadata than images? And there are at least as many, if not more image formats than there are e-book formats.

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Old 04-13-2013, 01:01 AM   #94
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However Modify, and Polish only work on ePubs.
FYI, Polish works on AZW3 files too.
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FYI, Polish works on AZW3 files too.
But not on MOBI, PDF and RTF, the latter 2 are my primary formats, EPUB and MOBI are secondary. Can't recall any of my colleagues mentioning AZW1, 2 or 3, most have Android tablets these days, they've given their Kindles and Nooks to their wifi's & kidi's.

Most non fiction is published in PDF, with DOC/DOCX running a distant second and ODT barely in the race. Most of the DOC/DOCX & ODT files are easily massaged into RTF with Word or Writer, those that aren't, usually due to complex formatting are either available as PDF, or I can readily create one from Word or Writer.

Why do I want RTF and/or PDF? Content Search - including the metadata.

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But not on MOBI, PDF and RTF, the latter 2 are my primary formats, EPUB and MOBI are secondary.
I didn't say it would meet your needs, nor do I care. I only corrected your misstatement. The Polish tool in calibre works on epubs and azw3 books.
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'Twas a bug, so I moved it to launchpad - I recall seeing Kovid's away for a bit.

Its here if you're interested https://bugs.launchpad.net/calibre/+bug/1168793

And it'll be fixed in the next release

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Old 04-13-2013, 11:15 PM   #98
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I'd like an option to 'inject' metadata from the database into the supported metadata fields in the selected format file, without making any changes to the actual content of the files, no matter what the format. If it can be 'put there' in a convert or save to disk, then it must be possible to just 'put it there' without any converting or saving.
You have to modify the OPF of an ePub in order to change the metadata. So not modifying any file is not possible.

Modify ePub is the only way to do it without doing it via Tweak eBook and doing it manually that does not do any converting. I suggest you go to the plugins forum and find the Modify ePub thread and put in a request for an original_ePub option to be added.
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You have to modify the OPF of an ePub in order to change the metadata. So not modifying any file is not possible.

Modify ePub is the only way to do it without doing it via Tweak eBook and doing it manually that does not do any converting. I suggest you go to the plugins forum and find the Modify ePub thread and put in a request for an original_ePub option to be added.
Thanks JSWolf,

We've drifted off topic, my primary issue is not with EPUB or AZW3 files, its with RTF (and PDF files) files, I've created a new thread here http://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=210598

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QUESTION: When using this plug-in is it recommended to delete the original epub file? What is the downside to removing the original epub in lieu of the "polished" book.
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QUESTION: When using this plug-in is it recommended to delete the original epub file? What is the downside to removing the original epub in lieu of the "polished" book.
The downside is if you decide to unpolish, you can't.
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QUESTION: When using this plug-in is it recommended to delete the original epub file? What is the downside to removing the original epub in lieu of the "polished" book.
The usual reason for having a backup: it doesn't always get it right, and the original ePub/AZW3 file allows you to get back to where you were.

"Polish" isn't a plug-in, BTW; it's core program functionality.

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