Watermarking mobi files for Kindle?

Mjamy · 02-13-2013, 09:16 AM

Hi folks,

since Amazon's DRM protection is broken I am looking for other / additional ways to protect my content.

Is it possible to watermark the mobil files for Kindle?

susan_cassidy · 02-13-2013, 11:48 AM

In what way is Amazon's DRM "broken". It works fine on all 3 of my Kindles. Or, do you mean that is is possible to remove the DRM? All DRM is removable, as far as I know, if you know what you are doing.

I suppose by watermark, you mean embedding some text in the book saying who the owner is. Yes, you can do that, but you have to recreate the book every time in order to add the text.

Jellby · 02-13-2013, 12:45 PM

Watermarking will not protect anything, it would only make possible to trace a copy to the original purchaser. But anything that can be read can be "broken" too.

If watermarking is what you want, this might give you some ideas:
http://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...8&postcount=11
http://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...4&postcount=13
That's mainly for ePub, where the code is stored as-is. I don't know how much of it would be applicable to mobi files.

ApK · 02-13-2013, 12:48 PM

You can protect your content by fiercely litigating if you are harmed by it's misuse, and watermarking can help there in some cases.

You can truly protect your content by not publishing it and showing it to no one.

Other than that, any technological measures you take are far more likely to tick someone off then to protect anything in the slightest.

ApK

Mjamy · 02-14-2013, 05:18 AM

Interesting aspects, thanks for the feedback.

If Kindle is not suited here: Are there services available that embed watermarsk in PDF files with the data of the buyer?

pdurrant · 02-14-2013, 05:42 AM

It seems to me that you're likely to protect it so much, no-one will buy it. Adding DRM will only affect your paying customers, not those who rip you off by downloading unauthorised copies.

Watermarking is the only form of DRM I'm happy with on my books, but it's not possible through the Amazon Kindle store, as it would require Amazon to provide it. Indeed, it's only possible at the moment through your own web site.

But unless you're J K Rowling, you're unlikely to draw enough traffic (& sales) to justify the set-up costs.

Mjamy · 02-14-2013, 05:56 AM

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Mjamy Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Kindle Touch	Watermarking mobi files for Kindle? Hi folks, since Amazon's DRM protection is broken I am looking for other / additional ways to protect my content. Is it possible to watermark the mobil files for Kindle?

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Mjamy Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Kindle Touch	Deleted as thiks is a PDF specific question Last edited by Mjamy; 02-14-2013 at 05:01 PM.

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02-13-2013, 11:48 AM	#2
susan_cassidy Wizard Posts: 1,415 Karma: 1022584 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: Kindle, iPad (not used much for reading)	In what way is Amazon's DRM "broken". It works fine on all 3 of my Kindles. Or, do you mean that is is possible to remove the DRM? All DRM is removable, as far as I know, if you know what you are doing. I suppose by watermark, you mean embedding some text in the book saying who the owner is. Yes, you can do that, but you have to recreate the book every time in order to add the text.

02-13-2013, 12:45 PM	#3
Jellby frumious Bandersnatch Posts: 5,133 Karma: 2460081 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spaniard in Sweden Device: Cybook Orizon	Watermarking will not protect anything, it would only make possible to trace a copy to the original purchaser. But anything that can be read can be "broken" too. If watermarking is what you want, this might give you some ideas: http://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...8&postcount=11 http://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...4&postcount=13 That's mainly for ePub, where the code is stored as-is. I don't know how much of it would be applicable to mobi files.

02-14-2013, 05:18 AM	#5
Mjamy Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Kindle Touch	Interesting aspects, thanks for the feedback. If Kindle is not suited here: Are there services available that embed watermarsk in PDF files with the data of the buyer?

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