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Old 02-10-2013, 05:42 PM   #46
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Not worth it. Will just pick up a new one when this one dies completely (or becomes too annoying) for $5 and it will last another 15 years.
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Old 02-11-2013, 06:53 AM   #47
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As a frugal shopper, until eReaders are at least as long lived as a calculator, a portable phone, a remote control, a transistor radio, televisions or even a standard laptop computer I can't see how I would ever purchase another one.

So, when (if ever) do you see them becoming as long lived as other commonly used electronic devices?
I got my first kindle as a present. I broke it after a half of year by accident.
Amazon replaced it, practically no question asked.
I will always buy a kindle withouth any thinking when it will be sturdy as a calculator. Why?

Because basic kindle4 is 70 $. That is average 7 books. I can read thousands and thousands of free books I would have to otherwise loan from library or read on a stupid PC screen which makes my eyes hurt. This makes the device pays for itself.

Second point. Amazon will replace the kindle without any hassle if it breaks in the one year guarantee period. They are really great company for this and they know that building the base of people with their device is building a base of buyers for their books. And this is where the real money is.

So for me your question is no question at all. I read a lot of books and for a year of reading 70 $ is not that much. I give 200 $ on my contacts for a year and I use up them as well.

All modern electronics is made to break in a reasonable period. How else would this consumer society work?

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Old 02-11-2013, 04:03 PM   #49
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My Casio calculator from secondary upper school got several dead pixels on the screen just after 4 years and I promise, it was not used much in school…
Just bad luck.

But compare to cellphones, how long do you have them? I am glad if they last for two years and there are a lot of people who bought the first ipad and later bought a new one when it had better screen and where faster.
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:53 AM   #50
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There is a great difference between a calculator and an ereader.
The difference is great in complexity, versatility, number of features, hardware and especially software elements, and basic intended usage.

I do not think I exaggerate too much when I say this can be thought of as the difference between a bicycle and a (modern) car.
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Old 02-13-2013, 07:57 PM   #51
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My PRS-505 still works, the battery doesn't hold a charge as long as it once did, but it will still last several days on a charge.
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:05 PM   #52
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My Casio calculator from secondary upper school got several dead pixels on the screen just after 4 years and I promise, it was not used much in school…
Just bad luck.

But compare to cellphones, how long do you have them? I am glad if they last for two years and there are a lot of people who bought the first ipad and later bought a new one when it had better screen and where faster.
I had my previous cell phone - a Nokia 5185i - approximately 8 years. It finally quit working in 2012 and I replaced it. Expect to keep my current Samsung Gusto 2 phone as long as it works. I don't use the phone much. I also have an TV that's nearly 20 years old, on a converter box....

I've had my Sony reader for approximately a year. I expect to keep using it until it dies. Hope that's a long time!
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:19 AM   #53
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One issue with these comparisons is that the broken old devices are thrown away long ago and forgotten...

Some of it might have something to do with increased complexity and miniaturisation. New chips are far more dense than the old ones, which can shorten their lives. On other hand this also means more power and cheaper prices. I still don't say that old calculators weren't designed well and with reliability in mind...
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:37 AM   #54
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I would love it if my ereader was powered by a tiny solar cell.

I wonder how long it would take one of those to save up enough juice to turn a page.
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:48 AM   #55
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My family has bought all types of calculators, mostly for math classes. Some have bit the dust after a year, some are still going after 10 years. These weren't the cheap variety, either, but graphing and scientific calculators with the large screen.

My take? The larger the screen the quicker the machine dies. Sometimes the screen bit the dust, but others it was the processor or whatever that powered the screen. And that is from observing all the calculators at schools that were required, too. My hubby teaches math and knows that every year a certain percentage of the calculators the school supplies will have to be replaced because they quit working (usually after the warranty runs out).

So, I don't know if screen size is the factor, or the processing that goes on that requires the large screen.
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So, I don't know if screen size is the factor, or the processing that goes on that requires the large screen.
I would also guess that those with larger screens are more powerfull and have more advanced hardware. Which leads to shorter lifecycle as more things can go wrong and possibly less reliable hardware is used to offset the manufacturing.
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I had my previous cell phone - a Nokia 5185i - approximately 8 years. It finally quit working in 2012 and I replaced it. Expect to keep my current Samsung Gusto 2 phone as long as it works. I don't use the phone much. I also have an TV that's nearly 20 years old, on a converter box....

I've had my Sony reader for approximately a year. I expect to keep using it until it dies. Hope that's a long time!
Boy, if I had used such an old phone and made calls only for every e-mail, skype call or instant message I sent and received during my travels over the years I would probably be in the hole for few 100,000 bucks by now! Not to mention the pictures, movies, and documents I couldn't have sent or received and the fact that people don't always have time for you when you call but they always respond to e-mail when they get around to it.

Besides, why even go to work if you never enjoy buying anything new and better?

And as for the subject of this thread --- the people have spoken, they want cheap, not durable reading devices.

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Old 02-15-2013, 03:13 AM   #58
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eh I have two calculators from the 80's that still work pretty well. I also have the Franklin Bible/Bookman lcd reader that still works after over a decade of regular use. Never bought its cartridge books. I got the wordgame cartridge and haul it out whenever I get stuck somewhere. I am still using a cellphone from the early 2000's as well. It may be that ereader components can't last as well as these, but there is no way to tell if anyone is seriously trying to make them work reliably for the long-term. Still, as the prices go down, the irritation on this point tends to reduce right along with it.

I seriously wonder how long the early LCD readers (with replaceable batteries) can last. A number of LCD portable electronics have been lasting very nicely.

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I would also guess that those with larger screens are more powerfull and have more advanced hardware. Which leads to shorter lifecycle as more things can go wrong and possibly less reliable hardware is used to offset the manufacturing.
That could be! Also the 2-tone style tends to survive better than those with finer resolution. The Franklin's screen is really tiny, and has type like an 80's monitor. Fairly simple. Relatively sturdy
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