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Old 01-12-2013, 11:09 AM   #16
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I couldn't care less if a device I own is considered cool. I buy what meets my needs and assume that others do the same.
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:20 AM   #17
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LOL. You do not have teenage kids and, obviously, were never a teen yourself.
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The iOS interface is terribly stale. Which would be OK if it weren't so inflexible. They gave users virtually no way to customize it except for a new wallpaper.

I jailbroke my Touch solely to get widgets easily accessible from the home screen to easily toggle wi-fi on and off. But once it was jailbroken, I customized the interface with icons, wallpaper, and custom screen and docking layouts to just how I like it. I can't go back now to the stock interface. Whenever I see it, it looks so drab and even a bit ugly compared to how I now have my Touch looking.

I'm guessing a lot of kids are finding the same thing out -- and that Android has so much more flexibility for customizing the user interface. If one of their friends has a cool-looking layout on their Android phone and they can't even change the look of their iPhone, they may want to switch.

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Old 01-12-2013, 11:41 AM   #19
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We have four Fires. We passed on Gen 2 because Gen 1 is still great for us and we want to check out the aPhones. I've used the Surface a lot and I like it. I like the magnetic keyboard and the built in stand. I like that it runs Windows. I like the size and weight. It will be difficult to decide when the time comes.
I should mention that Amazon Prime is the reason this decision will be difficult. If I could swap Netflix for Prime, it would be a no brainer. So far, Amazon's jack-of-all-trades has failed to lure me away from the Master. There's a pull, but my feet remain on planet Netflix. Can't wait to see the aPhone and hope Prime gets better soon!
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:34 PM   #20
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The iOS interface is terribly stale. Which would be OK if it weren't so inflexible. They gave users virtually no way to customize it except for a new wallpaper
^ This. It's been 5 years since introduction, and it has not changed, all you have is a grid of icons, with the option to create folders. Compare Android where it was in 2009 and where it is now, and it's night and day.
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:39 PM   #21
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I have never been in an Apple Store where the iStaff did not outnumber the
consumers. Unless you are counting employees, the Apple Stores where I live are empty between product launches.

FWIW, my college kid and my high school freshman both want Samsung phones. I'm pushing back to see what Amazon does.
My advice don't android devices without google services. Is a fools bargain.
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:49 PM   #22
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My advice don't android devices without google services. Is a fools bargain.
No one ever said I wasn't a fool. Since I bought my Atari 400 in the 80s, my selection process is...
  1. Make a list of all the stuff you want to do with a computer
  2. Make a list of all the programs that will do what you want to satisfaction
  3. Make a list of all the computers that will run the programs to satisfaction
  4. Shop for price
I've never chosen an operating system per se. It just happens that the answer, for me, is usually Windows. The Fire was an exception. My Blackberry was an exception. Apple has never bubbled up for me. Ditto on Linux and Android.
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Old 01-12-2013, 02:37 PM   #23
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I should mention that Amazon Prime is the reason this decision will be difficult. If I could swap Netflix for Prime, it would be a no brainer. So far, Amazon's jack-of-all-trades has failed to lure me away from the Master. There's a pull, but my feet remain on planet Netflix. Can't wait to see the aPhone and hope Prime gets better soon!
Drop a line stating this to Jeff Bezos, although he probably is already working on it.
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Old 01-12-2013, 02:49 PM   #24
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Drop a line stating this to Jeff Bezos, although he probably is already working on it.
I'm sure you are right. I suspect too that Amazon saw that magnetic keyboard and said, "Let's do that!" I expect amazing things from the major players. I have not been this excited about computers for twenty years.
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:17 PM   #25
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Well yes it is hard to ever see it in that light when my parents and aunt and uncle have iPhones.
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:27 PM   #26
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Apple has been the king of the hill for a while now, so people trying to push them down is to be expected. It's quite interesting when people start to make "observations" (such as this one), but are really just expressing what they would like to see. It's just as curious as when "analysts" claim that the iPhone is dead, yet every year iOS dominates the records for mobile browsing, mobile shopping, mobile photo-taking, etc. Apple would quite simply not be doing so well if it was no longer "cool". Being a young adult myself, I still have to interact with teenagers often and it's simple : 50% of them have iPhones, 40% want one but can't afford it, and the remaining 10% will say that Android is better because it's more popular.
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50% of them have iPhones, 40% want one but can't afford it, and the remaining 10% will say that Android is better because it's more popular.
hm, according to this research, iphone users are more prone to debt...just one sentence from this...
"In fact, a YouGov poll found that a fifth of Apple users admitted that their bank account is always overdrawn, and generally, iPhone users were more likely to have a lesser paying job than Android or Blackberry owners."
check under: dude, you're barista from samsung commercial :-)


http://news.payplan.com/why-iphone-5...t-infographic/

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LOL. You do not have teenage kids and, obviously, were never a teen yourself.
I also could care less if a device I own is cool or in. Although I have never assumed others did the same. I have been like this my entire life. And yes I do have a child who was once a teenager.
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^ This. It's been 5 years since introduction, and it has not changed, all you have is a grid of icons, with the option to create folders. Compare Android where it was in 2009 and where it is now, and it's night and day.
What I say now is directed toward "mobile devices."

I would say that Apple is like day time and things work, but Android is like Star bursts in the Night, just spectacular and glorious.

MS is like a foggy day on the marsh.

For "productivity machines" such as notebooks, laptops, desktops, the MS and Apple machines still lead, but Chrome is coming!
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It's quite interesting when people start to make "observations" (such as this one), but are really just expressing what they would like to see. It's just as curious as when "analysts" claim...
Welcome to the 21st century. The objective of pundits is to influence not report. This isn't an Apple thing (though both sides excel at it). Lies, d@mn lies, and statistics.

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