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Old 02-03-2013, 05:41 PM   #451
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Old 02-03-2013, 06:04 PM   #452
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I am not aware that every speed reader has that same preference or not.
It's as you said earlier: it comes down to a habit. I can speed read. I'm not the fastest reader to be sure, but it still does require a ridiculous amount of concentration, good lighting, and good fonts.

The trick is that you need to be able to recognize entire clumps of words, up to an entire sentence, at once, without needin to see every individual letter, or even every individual word.

I am asumng tht y w be able to rd ths sntene.

It works a bit like that. You see just parts of the entire sentence when reading, but you "capture" the entire one at once. You can only do so at great speed when you are familiar with the type of font that is used.

As you said: there are not many books printed in sans serif fonts. That guy is probably used to serif fonts, so he can't speed read with sans serif fonts. (I can't either: also used to serif fonts when reading on paper.)
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Old 02-03-2013, 06:08 PM   #453
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I've created a Charis SIL Modifed that is larger in size. I just have to rename it and then I'll have to work on Charis SIL Compact to make it larger. I have the number to use for the size. I just have to work on the line space.
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Old 02-03-2013, 08:38 PM   #454
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As requested by JSWolf, I've run a comparison between Charis SIL Compact 3 and Caecilia 2. Line spacing was set to the smallest on both, and a KF8 book (created by Calibre) was used. I've made sure to count a line with only characters: no special characters such as comma's or semi-colons. To compare, I've also thrown in my own versions of DejaVu Serif and Verdana.

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Charis SIL Compact 3:	54 chars x 31 lines = 1674 chars/screen
Caecilia 2:		52 chars x 29 lines = 1508 chars/screen
DejaVu Serif 2:		53 chars x 33 lines = 1749 chars/screen
Verdana 2:		53 chars x 32 lines = 1696 chars/screen
There you have it: Charis SIL Compact 3 is more comparable in size with the others at size 2. While it is more compact in line spacing than Caecila, it does not match DejaVu Serif and Verdana.

When using Mobi, the characters are smaller than when using KF8, and the line spacing is even tighter (line spacing is still set to the smallest possible):

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Charis SIL Compact 3:	56 chars x 37 lines = 2072 chars/screen
Caecilia 2:		53 chars x 32 lines = 1696 chars/screen
DejaVu Serif 2:		53 chars x 37 lines = 1961 chars/screen
Verdana 2:		53 chars x 37 lines = 1961 chars/screen
When using fonts the size of Caecilia, (my) DejaVu Serif and (my) Verdana, on size setting 2 and spacing 1, then I think that 33 lines in KF8 and 37 lines in Mobi is the maximum that can be attained. At this point, when an ascender and a descender (d, p) end up above each other and exactly meet, then they just don't touch. If you'd use any tighter fonts, letters on different lines would start touching.

Maybe I'll create a "Test book" somewhere this week, with some Lorum Ipsum, and some "difficult" letter combinations in it, such as putting a "p" and a "d" right above one another (with the "p" on top, obviously). Then people can all objectively look at the font and/or post screenshots using the same book

Hopefully the comparisons are useful for people who want to modify their own fonts for use in KF8 / Mobi. I'm going back to DejaVu Serif size 3, line spacing 2, and read some stuff (Edit: and if someone wants to count letters and lines at size 2 with smallest spacing in Mobi-format, and have less than stellar eyesight: don't. It's difficult.)

Oh, and on a side note: I've also tried Gentium Book Basic. It looks completely atrocious. The font weight and sizes are all over the place. Letters have differing weights, they are not the same size, and some are even very jagged. Don't know why this is. It looks like a font would in Linux, as if you have the font engine configured wrong....

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Oh, and on a side note: I've also tried Gentium Book Basic. It looks completely atrocious. The font weight and sizes are all over the place. Letters have differing weights, they are not the same size, and some are even very jagged. Don't know why this is. It looks like a font would in Linux, as if you have the font engine configured wrong....
The font looks fine to me the different weights can be a Kindle issue try refreshing the page.
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:06 PM   #456
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That looks fine indeed.

Are you still at that page? You're never going to get that book finished, even though it seems to be a very short one
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That looks fine indeed.

Are you still at that page? You're never going to get that book finished, even though it seems to be a very short one
I'm not reading that one yet. It is a short book though 3hrs but there are 20 books in the series. Most books I read are 5 to 8 hours.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:41 AM   #458
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Oh, and on a side note: I've also tried Gentium Book Basic. It looks completely atrocious. The font weight and sizes are all over the place. Letters have differing weights, they are not the same size, and some are even very jagged. Don't know why this is. It looks like a font would in Linux, as if you have the font engine configured wrong....
Really? I'm using Blossom's modified Gentium Book, and really like it a lot.
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Really? I'm using Blossom's modified Gentium Book, and really like it a lot.
Same here! It's one of my favorites.
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Hey! My fat Georgia should be your "favoritest" font!

I'll try Gentium Book again (default version) to see if it does work. I find the font too small compared to DejaVu Serif and setting a bigger size spaces it wider.

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I'm using Gentium Book 5 with middle-icon line spacing, and margins set to 25 using JBPatch. At least in the current book I'm reading (an AZW3 book), that makes the most readable page for me. Others may not like the wider line spacing, but I find it helps me keep my place better when I stop reading.
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Hey! My fat Georgia should be your "favoritest" font!
Which one is that again? Gentium Book and Georgia fat duel! But seriously, when I said "one of" of course I meant Georgia fat was one of my other favorites. I will raise my sword to defend the honor of Georgia fat against anyone on here.
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And you better should defend it. That font took me 5 minutes to make and upload

(Funny thing is, I hate it myself. Should make it bigger.)
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I was tempted to jailbreak and I did my K4 but the update stop me from doing it.

I resized Palatino by 5% and it looks really good!
I'm envious, Blossom. I use Palatino but wish it were slightly larger.
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I'm envious, Blossom. I use Palatino but wish it were slightly larger.
Larger? I shrank it by 5%. I thought it was too wide.
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