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Old 03-22-2014, 04:06 AM   #781
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Und wie funktioniert das? Kann generell jedes Copyright verlängert werden? Wer entscheidet darüber?
Schwierig zu beantworten, da die USA die Gesetze mehrfach grundlegend geändert haben. Inzwischen gilt auch in den USA die Regel, dass Bücher 70 Jahre nach dem Tod des Autors gemeinfrei werden, aber nur mehr oder minder aktuelle Bücher (genauer weiß ich’s nicht). Die Sache mit der Anmeldung galt bis 1989, und wegen einer äußerst großzügig bemessenen Übergangsfrist werden überhaupt erst wieder 2019 weitere Bücher gemeinfrei.
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Und wie funktioniert das? Kann generell jedes Copyright verlängert werden? Wer entscheidet darüber?
Ich habe mich damit ehrlich gesagt noch nie im Detail beschäftigt. Man liest dann irgendwo im Impressum "Copyright 19.. (renewed)". Die Details des US-Copyrights sind hyperkompliziert - ich habe manchmal versucht, Threads dazu im englischsprachigen Teil von MR zu verfolgen, und bin immer bald ausgestiegen. Allgemein kann man wohl sagen, dass die Rechtslage immer so angepasst wird, dass Disneys Steamboat Willie von 1928 niemals gemeinfrei wird, und man sich deshalb darauf einrichten muss, dass kein nach 1928 veröffentlichtes Werk das je werden wird, solange jemand Rechte daran beansprucht.
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Das komplette U.S.-Gesetz findet sich auf MR hier. In der gekürzten Fassung im zweiten Post sind die wichtigen Stellen rot markiert. (Nicht rot markierte Stellen sind dazu da, Hanseln wie uns durch ihre überfordernde Fülle Angst zu machen, damit wir gar nicht erst auf die Idee kommen, irgendwas zu veröffentlichen.)

Was ich verstanden zu haben glaube:

Für seit 1978 entstandene Werke gilt die Life+70-Regel.

Für vor 1978 erschienene Werke gilt diese Regel zwar ebenfalls, zusätzlich gilt, dass Werke für 95 Jahre seit Erscheinen geschützt sind (zur Anwendung kommt die länger währende Frist).

Vor 1978 entstandene Texte, die erstmals zwischen 1978 und 2002 erschienen sind, sind bis Ende 2047 geschützt, sofern sich dies nicht durch hier ebenfalls gültige Life+70-Regel verlängert.

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Old 03-22-2014, 10:20 AM   #784
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Sieht so aus, als wäre das ein Fehlalarm gewesen. Uff.
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Old 03-22-2014, 10:29 AM   #785
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Das hatte ich insgeheim gehofft, da es wirklich zu idiotisch klang.
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Und dann wissen wir ja, wer jetzt zur Feier des Tages Yeats machen muss.
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Und dann wissen wir ja, wer jetzt zur Feier des Tages Yeats machen muss.
Echt? Wer?
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A sudden blow: the great wings beating still
Above the staggering girl, her thighs caressed
By the dark webs, her nape caught in his bill,
He holds her helpless breast upon his breast.

How can those terrified vague fingers push
The feathered glory from her loosening thighs?
And how can body, laid in that white rush,
But feel the strange heart beating where it lies?

A shudder in the loins engenders there
The broken wall, the burning roof and tower[20]
And Agamemnon dead.

Being so caught up,

So mastered by the brute blood of the air,
Did she put on his knowledge with his power
Before the indifferent beak could let her drop?
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Διὸς δὲ Λήδᾳ συνελθόντος ὁμοιωθέντος κύκνῳ
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Das Gleiche gilt für Amy Lowell, mit der ich mch auch beschäftige; bei ihr allerdings (wahrscheinlich, weil sie Amerikanerin war) führt das US-Copyright schon jetzt dazu, dass ihre nach 1923 erschienen Werke online überhaupt nicht greifbar sind.
Einen Scan von What’s O’Clock (1925) habe ich gerade hier gefunden.
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Old 03-22-2014, 11:37 AM   #791
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… und eine Ausgabe der Complete Poetical Works of Amy Lowell findet sich in der Bibliothek der Freien Universität. (Wenn sie mal hier schauen wollen – es ist im orange markierten Regal!!!)
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Das ist ja seehr schick. Ich stöbere da nochmal beim Hathi Trust weiter (das ist das erste Buch dort, das ich anschauen kann - sonst sind die immer alle geblockt...), und dann könnte man ja, wenn man denn einen Menschen in Berlin kennte, welcher in der Lage wäre, orange markierte Regale zu finden, diesen fragen, ob er die letztendlich gar nicht soo vielen fehlenden Gedichte zu scannen bereit wäre...
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Dazu könnte man einen in Berlin lebenden Menschen eventuell überreden. Das kostet aber mehr Häschen.
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Sehr schön. Die gute Ms Lowell liegt seit Ende letzten Sommers halbfertig hier auf Halde; ich muss mir erstmal wieder einen Überblick verschaffen, wie da der Stand der Dinge ist. Dann gibts pro zu scannendem Gedicht ein .
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Cool, ich besorge mir schon mal entsprechende Rezepte …
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