Is the Kindle Keyboard (K3) ever going to get KF8 support?

apastuszak · 04-04-2012, 12:01 AM

I've been having issues with ePub books converting to mobi and losing formatting, especially in tables. From what I have read, the KF8 format is a much better format, with better table support, and even support for drop caps. It should be able to take an ePub conversion without any loss of formatting.

wallcraft · 04-04-2012, 12:20 AM

What Amazon says is:

Quote:

Q: Will KF8 capabilities be available on all Kindle devices?
A: Kindle Fire is the first Kindle device to support KF8 - in the coming months we will roll out KF8 to our latest generation Kindle e-ink devices as well as our free Kindle reading apps.

This implies that KF8 won't be available on the K3, and in addition it has typically been Amazon's practice that new capabilities are not back ported to older devices.

Zeebra · 04-04-2012, 11:00 AM

Speaking of KF8, are there any rumors of a new firmware in beta for the latest Kindles? (kindle NT and kindle touch)? Just curious it's been fairly quiet with regards to firmware updates the last little while.

HarryT · 04-04-2012, 11:03 AM

We know there's going to be a new Kindle Touch firmware version for their European release on 27th April.

apastuszak · 04-06-2012, 07:26 AM

The Kindle Keyboard is still a currently shipping product. I hope that means it's included.

DiapDealer · 04-06-2012, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apastuszak

The Kindle Keyboard is still a currently shipping product. I hope that means it's included.

That would be a nice bonus, but I certainly wouldn't get my hopes up.

HarryT · 04-06-2012, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apastuszak

The Kindle Keyboard is still a currently shipping product. I hope that means it's included.

It's a shipping product, but I suspect they're simply selling off existing stock. I doubt that any more K3s are being manufactured.

ProfCrash · 04-06-2012, 04:34 PM

The DX is still shipping and it has not been updated in two years. I am not counting on the K3 getting an update to read the new format.

I might have to buy a touch...

and a new Oberon cover for my touch.

(heads off to go shopping)

mikeschr · 04-06-2012, 06:55 PM

As Wallcraft pointed out, Amazon has implied that the K3 won't get KF8 support. This would be consistent with things they've done before.

I went round and round in another forum with someone who insisted that it shouldn't be pointed out to a new Kindle purchaser that the K3 is a generation behind. I think KF8 support is the sort of thing a new purchaser should at least be aware of.

ProfCrash · 04-06-2012, 08:42 PM

It is getting harder to find the K3 on Amazons webpage. The WiFi has been out for a while. I would be surprised if there were that many K3 3G left. The K3 is not sold in BM stores. Most new Kindle users are going to have the K4 or the KT.

apastuszak · 04-06-2012, 11:40 PM

If the K3 doesn't get KF8, I may be time to move to a reader with ePub support. What they're doing with the DX is a crime. I would love to get a DX just to read PDFs, if nothing else.

I have no issues with touch screens, so I could consider the Kindle Touch, but I do demand physical page turn buttons, and I want them in the bezel.

I really like the new Sony Readers, but I hate the layout of their page turn buttons.

apastuszak · 04-06-2012, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

It's a shipping product, but I suspect they're simply selling off existing stock. I doubt that any more K3s are being manufactured.

When the Kindle 3 came out, they stopped all advertisements for the Kindle 2. At least when the KT came out, they renamed the K3 the Kindle Keyboard and kept it in the official lineup.

Daveoc64 · 04-10-2012, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apastuszak

When the Kindle 3 came out, they stopped all advertisements for the Kindle 2. At least when the KT came out, they renamed the K3 the Kindle Keyboard and kept it in the official lineup.

Indeed.

Everything Amazon has done with the Kindle Keyboard suggests that its still a supported product.

The 3.3 update came out after the Fire/Touch were announced and added a significant new feature.

ProfCrash · 04-11-2012, 03:25 AM

Except that the WiFi K3 has not returned. Which tells me that they are not making it any more and suggests that it is not a supported product.

ametzler · 04-19-2012, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apastuszak

The Kindle Keyboard is still a currently shipping product. [...]

barely. Non-3g K3 is not available anymore.

K3 3G is still available, but the pricing is prohibitive.
cu andreas

04-04-2012, 12:01 AM	#1
apastuszak Addict Posts: 223 Karma: 11757 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Bensalem, PA Device: Kindle Paperwhite, nook Simple Touch, Apple iPad 2, Nexus 10	Is the Kindle Keyboard (K3) ever going to get KF8 support? I've been having issues with ePub books converting to mobi and losing formatting, especially in tables. From what I have read, the KF8 format is a much better format, with better table support, and even support for drop caps. It should be able to take an ePub conversion without any loss of formatting.

04-04-2012, 11:00 AM	#3
Zeebra Addict Posts: 308 Karma: 647275 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Toronto, Canada Device: Kindle	Speaking of KF8, are there any rumors of a new firmware in beta for the latest Kindles? (kindle NT and kindle touch)? Just curious it's been fairly quiet with regards to firmware updates the last little while. __________________ A mind needs books as a sword needs a whetstone, if it is to keep its edge. George R.R. Martin - A Game of Thrones

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04-06-2012, 04:34 PM	#8
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 6,829 Karma: 67675413 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3	The DX is still shipping and it has not been updated in two years. I am not counting on the K3 getting an update to read the new format. I might have to buy a touch... and a new Oberon cover for my touch. (heads off to go shopping) __________________ Assimilation does not have to be painful. Here, have a cup of tea.

04-06-2012, 08:42 PM	#10
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 6,829 Karma: 67675413 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3	It is getting harder to find the K3 on Amazons webpage. The WiFi has been out for a while. I would be surprised if there were that many K3 3G left. The K3 is not sold in BM stores. Most new Kindle users are going to have the K4 or the KT. __________________ Assimilation does not have to be painful. Here, have a cup of tea.

04-06-2012, 07:26 AM	#5
apastuszak Addict Posts: 223 Karma: 11757 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Bensalem, PA Device: Kindle Paperwhite, nook Simple Touch, Apple iPad 2, Nexus 10	The Kindle Keyboard is still a currently shipping product. I hope that means it's included.

04-06-2012, 06:55 PM	#9
mikeschr Connoisseur Posts: 60 Karma: 60 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Portland Device: Kindle 4	As Wallcraft pointed out, Amazon has implied that the K3 won't get KF8 support. This would be consistent with things they've done before. I went round and round in another forum with someone who insisted that it shouldn't be pointed out to a new Kindle purchaser that the K3 is a generation behind. I think KF8 support is the sort of thing a new purchaser should at least be aware of.

04-06-2012, 11:40 PM	#11
apastuszak Addict Posts: 223 Karma: 11757 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Bensalem, PA Device: Kindle Paperwhite, nook Simple Touch, Apple iPad 2, Nexus 10	If the K3 doesn't get KF8, I may be time to move to a reader with ePub support. What they're doing with the DX is a crime. I would love to get a DX just to read PDFs, if nothing else. I have no issues with touch screens, so I could consider the Kindle Touch, but I do demand physical page turn buttons, and I want them in the bezel. I really like the new Sony Readers, but I hate the layout of their page turn buttons.

04-11-2012, 03:25 AM	#14
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 6,829 Karma: 67675413 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3	Except that the WiFi K3 has not returned. Which tells me that they are not making it any more and suggests that it is not a supported product. __________________ Assimilation does not have to be painful. Here, have a cup of tea.

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