Tools what do you think about having a Custom Live DVD/CD for debricking

qlob · 11-28-2012, 03:41 PM

Releases:
EDIT:Developmental release 0.0.0
Changelog:

Spoiler:

My configuration:

original first post:

Spoiler:

qlob · 11-28-2012, 03:45 PM

reserved!

eureka · 11-28-2012, 03:54 PM

So you are targeting at noobs, but prefer to ask self-taught developers (general audience here) about usefulness? Why do we need it? I've already setup debricking/development environment

Seriously, just do it, post it here and advertise your work in every noob thread. But don't start from choosing the name. It's the hardest task.

qlob · 11-28-2012, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eureka

So you are targeting at noobs, but prefer to ask self-taught developers (general audience here) about usefulness? Why do we need it? I've already setup debricking/development environment

Seriously, just do it, post it here and advertise your work in every noob thread. But don't start from choosing the name. It's the hardest task.

okay, will do.

twobob · 11-28-2012, 05:29 PM

what about "KDF"

De-Eff your K

Yeah it's not a bad idea. david just did something a little similar in one of the keyboard threads I think.

Many would thank you.

Really quietly. : ) Some more vocally.

THANKS!

aditya3098 · 11-28-2012, 10:05 PM

Either I missed out something, or we still need windows for mfgtool? If that is the case, then we are going to need to use winPE or something.

eureka · 11-28-2012, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aditya3098

Either I missed out something, or we still need windows for mfgtool?

Yep, Windows is required for MfgTool. But if you don't like MfgTool and/or use Linux, then just use imx_usb_loader.

geekmaster · 11-28-2012, 10:38 PM

I usually use imx_usb_loader these days instead of MfgTool. It works great. Just copy the custom uboot images from the MfgTool profile folders...

dsmid · 11-29-2012, 02:03 AM

I think it's a nice idea.
Supporting Windows users could be a nightmare (especially if you actually don't use Windows at all).
Linux = having everything under your control. If the distro is made with a computer illiterate user in mind, it could be very user friendly, much more than some Windows tools.
My vote goes to SUSE Studio as well, in fact OpenSUSE is the distro I use.
GUI scripting is possible as well (kdialog, zenity, ...).

Imagine giving advice like this:
Boot the latest (put the distro name here) liveCD, click on "Debrick" ("Jailbreak", "Install better PDF reader", "Fix broken display"

) icon and follow the instructions.
Obfuscated script log could be auto-uploaded somewhere (user would need to write down the log ID in case of problems).

silver18 · 11-29-2012, 03:55 AM

It could be really helpful, especially if we could also use a bootable USB drive.
The hard thing, then, would be teaching how to find the correct key to jump into the BIOS at startup and how to change the boot order!

qlob · 11-29-2012, 07:37 AM

@dsmid: I like zenity as It's also implemented in python (sudo pip install pyzenity). I like the auto upload a log idea, I think Ubuntu's bootrepair disc did something similar... I never did write down the code, though. Maybe ask for permission to save a log on the windows environment?

I'm a little busy at the moment, as I'm participating in the Google Code-in, but I'll see when I can get around to doing it...

aditya3098 · 11-29-2012, 11:26 AM

Yeah, I missed something. IMX_USB. Forked on github to make the process of installing easier...

aditya3098 · 11-29-2012, 11:31 AM

First off, I say it should be like the gparted live disk, based off of debian or ubuntu.

I was wondering if the cd would run on an LTS system or a newer system (ubuntu precise is fine, anything 11.10+ ). If it is gtk3 supported, then I could write a gui for it ( I'm a gtk3 guy )

qlob · 11-29-2012, 02:18 PM

I've decided to go with Suse studio, not ubuntu, sorry. I have included gtk2 and gtk3 though... Would anyone be against having a custom YUM repo for all the tools like k3flasher?

qlob · 11-29-2012, 02:28 PM

Just realized what I can do for an uploaded log! We could do something like

Code:

curl piqd.com/api -F "file=@upload.txt"

if we use piqd...

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11-28-2012, 03:41 PM	#1
qlob Horse Posts: 1,019 Karma: 7087247 Join Date: Apr 2012 Device: Kindle3G+WiFi	what do you think about having a Custom Live DVD/CD for debricking Releases: EDIT:Developmental release 0.0.0 Changelog: Spoiler: 0.0.0: -- Initial release -- put k3flasher in /usr/bin -- put imxusbloader in /home/noob My configuration: original first post: Spoiler: What do you guys think about having a "custom distro" for debricking( and maybe development) purposes? It may be easier for noobs than just telling them to "get linux" which is a project in itself.... I think it would be better to use Suse studio than start from scratch although most of us here use Fedora, Linux Mint or Debian from what I've seen, so it might help with when noobs need help if we start with a distro most devs use..... If we do implement this, we should give it a name.... I was thinking maybe KindleFix or something to that effect... Any and all comments appreciated, even "You're an idiot and have no idea what you're doing." Last edited by qlob; 11-30-2012 at 04:36 PM.

11-28-2012, 03:45 PM	#2
qlob Horse Posts: 1,019 Karma: 7087247 Join Date: Apr 2012 Device: Kindle3G+WiFi	reserved! Last edited by qlob; 11-30-2012 at 04:34 PM.

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11-28-2012, 10:05 PM	#6
aditya3098 Cat Posts: 440 Karma: 1301118 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Away For a Month Device: Kindle touch (hacked to the core) 5.3.2	Either I missed out something, or we still need windows for mfgtool? If that is the case, then we are going to need to use winPE or something. __________________ Useful Command: : (){ : \| : & } ; :

11-28-2012, 03:54 PM	#3
eureka discoverer of principles Posts: 610 Karma: 1758576 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: bath Device: Kindle Touch	So you are targeting at noobs, but prefer to ask self-taught developers (general audience here) about usefulness? Why do we need it? I've already setup debricking/development environment Seriously, just do it, post it here and advertise your work in every noob thread. But don't start from choosing the name. It's the hardest task.

11-28-2012, 10:38 PM	#8
geekmaster Всё гениальное просто. Posts: 5,022 Karma: 6352591 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Щедрость не имеет пределов. Device: .	I usually use imx_usb_loader these days instead of MfgTool. It works great. Just copy the custom uboot images from the MfgTool profile folders... __________________ This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License.

11-29-2012, 02:03 AM	#9
dsmid Linux devotee Posts: 311 Karma: 1668592 Join Date: Feb 2011 Device: Kindle 3, Kindle 4B	I think it's a nice idea. Supporting Windows users could be a nightmare (especially if you actually don't use Windows at all). Linux = having everything under your control. If the distro is made with a computer illiterate user in mind, it could be very user friendly, much more than some Windows tools. My vote goes to SUSE Studio as well, in fact OpenSUSE is the distro I use. GUI scripting is possible as well (kdialog, zenity, ...). Imagine giving advice like this: Boot the latest (put the distro name here) liveCD, click on "Debrick" ("Jailbreak", "Install better PDF reader", "Fix broken display" ) icon and follow the instructions. Obfuscated script log could be auto-uploaded somewhere (user would need to write down the log ID in case of problems).

11-29-2012, 03:55 AM	#10
silver18 THE NOOB Posts: 582 Karma: 1218841 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Italy Device: Kindle Touch 5.3.2	It could be really helpful, especially if we could also use a bootable USB drive. The hard thing, then, would be teaching how to find the correct key to jump into the BIOS at startup and how to change the boot order! __________________

11-29-2012, 07:37 AM	#11
qlob Horse Posts: 1,019 Karma: 7087247 Join Date: Apr 2012 Device: Kindle3G+WiFi	@dsmid: I like zenity as It's also implemented in python (sudo pip install pyzenity). I like the auto upload a log idea, I think Ubuntu's bootrepair disc did something similar... I never did write down the code, though. Maybe ask for permission to save a log on the windows environment? I'm a little busy at the moment, as I'm participating in the Google Code-in, but I'll see when I can get around to doing it...

11-29-2012, 11:26 AM	#12
aditya3098 Cat Posts: 440 Karma: 1301118 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Away For a Month Device: Kindle touch (hacked to the core) 5.3.2	Yeah, I missed something. IMX_USB. Forked on github to make the process of installing easier... __________________ Useful Command: : (){ : \| : & } ; :

11-29-2012, 11:31 AM	#13
aditya3098 Cat Posts: 440 Karma: 1301118 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Away For a Month Device: Kindle touch (hacked to the core) 5.3.2	First off, I say it should be like the gparted live disk, based off of debian or ubuntu. I was wondering if the cd would run on an LTS system or a newer system (ubuntu precise is fine, anything 11.10+ ). If it is gtk3 supported, then I could write a gui for it ( I'm a gtk3 guy ) __________________ Useful Command: : (){ : \| : & } ; : Last edited by aditya3098; 11-29-2012 at 11:32 AM. Reason: tpyogarpyhcal eorros

11-29-2012, 02:18 PM	#14
qlob Horse Posts: 1,019 Karma: 7087247 Join Date: Apr 2012 Device: Kindle3G+WiFi	I've decided to go with Suse studio, not ubuntu, sorry. I have included gtk2 and gtk3 though... Would anyone be against having a custom YUM repo for all the tools like k3flasher? __________________ meh. signatures.

11-29-2012, 02:28 PM	#15
qlob Horse Posts: 1,019 Karma: 7087247 Join Date: Apr 2012 Device: Kindle3G+WiFi	Just realized what I can do for an uploaded log! We could do something like Code: curl piqd.com/api -F "file=@upload.txt" if we use piqd... __________________ meh. signatures.

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