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Old 10-17-2012, 12:36 PM   #1
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Can you buy from Amazon without their software

I've been trying to buy an e-book from Amazon but can't find a way to do it. It seems they want you to install a load of their software first - but they don't even provide such software for Linux anyway.

After a good search I've been unable to find the book anywhere else, not even in paper format.

Anyone know how to do this or if it's even possible?

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Old 10-17-2012, 12:45 PM   #2
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Nope, not without some device that uses their software. You don't have a smartphone or tablet, either?
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:45 PM   #3
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You need an app to read a Kindle book if you don't have a Kindle device. It is very easy to install Kindle for PC, if you have access to a Windows box. I wouldn't call the software "a load", just one app. If you have a smartphone, you can download Kindle for Android, or Kindle for iOS.
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:47 PM   #4
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If you have an Android or iDevice, you can use the Kindle app to purchase the book. It will be in Amazon's proprietary ebook format so you will have to do some liberating and converting to read it on your Kobo.
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:06 PM   #5
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You need an app to read a Kindle book if you don't have a Kindle device. It is very easy to install Kindle for PC, if you have access to a Windows box. I wouldn't call the software "a load", just one app. If you have a smartphone, you can download Kindle for Android, or Kindle for iOS.
Now I would call Kindle for PC a 'load'. Although not very much in terms of disk space there's a lot of individual files & registry entries for it. That's very common with Windows apps though. Basically, lazy programmers.
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:12 PM   #6
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I've been trying to buy an e-book from Amazon but can't find a way to do it. It seems they want you to install a load of their software first - but they don't even provide such software for Linux anyway.
Just install Kindle for PC under Wine in a virtual machine...
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:22 PM   #7
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No. All I have is my trusty old desktop.

I was gonna convert it to epub so I could read on my Kobo. The price is pretty good at Amazon.

It seems like even if I had a Kindle I couldn't buy it though as I don't have wifi. Glad I went for the Kobo instead now.

A bit more searching and I've now found a cheap used paper copy on Abebooks so might just go for that instead if there's really no way to purchase from Amazon.
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:38 PM   #8
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It seems like even if I had a Kindle I couldn't buy it though as I don't have wifi.
Not sure why you say this. WiFi makes it all work a bit easier, but if you had a Kindle (without 3G) you can also download to a computer and transfer via USB.



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if there's really no way to purchase from Amazon.
Kindle 4 PC under Wine works fine for quite a few people.
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:49 PM   #9
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Buy it for Kindle PC and use Calibre to strip and convert.
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Old 10-17-2012, 02:18 PM   #10
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You can technically buy via the webpage, and then read using the Kindle Cloud Reader webpage. You don't really download the books, but it is better than nothing.
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Old 10-17-2012, 02:37 PM   #11
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Just install Kindle for PC under Wine in a virtual machine...
Should be "or in a virtual machine". Wine would not require a virtual machine, and, depending on the OS, a virtual machine would not require Wine.
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Old 10-17-2012, 03:23 PM   #12
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No. All I have is my trusty old desktop.
I only meant as a way of getting the ebook in question. Once you have it, you'll probably want to strip the DRM anyway, and just convert to whatever format you need.
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Old 10-17-2012, 03:25 PM   #13
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Wine would not require a virtual machine, and, depending on the OS, a virtual machine would not require Wine.
True, but it makes the post-buy cleanup so much easier, and doesn't affect your desktop no matter what.
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Now I would call Kindle for PC a 'load'. Although not very much in terms of disk space there's a lot of individual files & registry entries for it. That's very common with Windows apps though. Basically, lazy programmers.
Any modern OS I'm familiar with use multiple files for programs. What do you use that doesn't?
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Any modern OS I'm familiar with use multiple files for programs. What do you use that doesn't?
Some of the RAM-resident linux distros like Puppy (~110MB!) and Tiny Core (11-60MB!) store the OS and standard apps in a single, bootable .iso file. Additional software packages are kept in individual files (ie, one file per application). Changes like documents and settings live in a combined user userspace savefile if you want to save state. It's not a solution for everyone's taste but they are very lightweight and fast. These functional and free OSes run in less RAM (and can load faster) than, say, Word.

There may be other examples of this kind of approach but I do not have personal experience with them.

The PortableApps approach seems to help keep Windoze app installs from flinging their stuff quite so far. I keep Portable firefox, putty, vlc, etc, (and usb bootable Puppy linux described above) on my keyfob USB.
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