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Old 10-02-2012, 03:04 PM   #106
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Is it possible that those splotches some are seeing at the bottom of the screen are simply smudge marks left over from the processing plant caused by the way it was handled on the assembly line?

If that is the problem, perhaps this product can remove them:

http://www.amazon.com/PixelClean-Wet...=IE5J3AN7J4KP3

I use them on my other Kindles to remove finger print marks and on all my LCD TV's and gadgets.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:07 PM   #107
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Here are some photos of just the KPW. Photos are so so and don't show the light shadows and blotching as well as my eyes see them. Coloring is too tan as well. Think grays not tans!


KPW with light Brightness Set to 0/24 (Off):



KPW with light Brightness Set to 14/24 (Off):



What my eyes see is a bad darkening area which is kind of visible in the above photo as a darker tan area covering much of the first paragraph on the page and about half of the second. You can see other dark shadow areas at bottom of screen. My screen is showing large areas darker than others.

KPW with light Brightness Set to 24/24 (Off):


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Old 10-02-2012, 03:10 PM   #108
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WOW, you're looks fantastic compared to mine!!
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:12 PM   #109
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If I get a new eReader I do not want to start with cleaning it!

Hope that all when unboxing thought about removing the plastic bag

Now I know why we do not getting it in Germany yet. Amazon wants to run beta testing in the home country first

Your reports are disappointing. I am sorry for you! The many reviews sounded to me like commercials and propaganda (almost). Maybe it was just a big marketing offence?
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:12 PM   #110
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When I got my Kindle Fire I was disappointed because the lowest brightness setting was still too bright to read in a totally dark room. How dim does the PW go? Can you dim it to the point where it's almost so dim you can't even see the words or is the lowest setting pretty bright?
You can turn the light all the way off. You will always be able to see the words on the eink screen unless you are in total darkness (like with a physical book).
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WOW, you're looks fantastic compared to mine!!
No it probably doesn't. These photos are washing out the bad effects. If you turned up the contrast on the photos you would probably see a better likeness. I'm having a really tough time photographing this screen. I'm thinking it is the built in light and the lack of a professional studio and lack of photo knowledge. I'm really good at astrophotography but not daylight photography!
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When I tilt my laptop up a little I can notice the dark areas you describe. It is not an even lighting at all. It is much better than my Kindle 3 lighted cover. It is not as in the promotion videos and reviews!
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Are there 3 LED's or 4 LED's. Your fotos look like there are only 3! I was of the impression that they want to install 4 LED'S. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:23 PM   #114
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Oh, and not to sound like Steve Jobs, but one more thing, the KPW is pretty bad with fingerprints though they only show up in certain light. Probably not an issue when reading, but at some angles you can really see where you touch and swipe a lot!

Okay I lied--another thing too: The somewhat fuzziness of the fonts at lower light brightness levels is fairly obvious to me to be the additional substrate layers. When Sony first made touch screen eReaders they had terribly fuzzy fonts. The fuzziness isn't that bad as the PRS-x00 line, but it is definately caused by the substrate IMO. I was so afraid this would be the case, but was hoping I would be pleasantly surprised. But to be brutally honest, the new KPW screen when viewed with the light totally off shows fonts pretty close to the fuzziness level of pre-Pearl screens. The KPW screen with light off looks to be just better than the old pre-Pearl screens and much worse than the first Pearl screens. Yuk!!

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Old 10-02-2012, 03:24 PM   #115
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Are there 3 LED's or 4 LED's. Your fotos look like there are only 3! I was of the impression that they want to install 4 LED'S. Maybe I'm wrong.
Looks like 5 LED's. There seems to be two on the far sides and three distributed across the middle width at the bottom.
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When I tilt my laptop up a little I can notice the dark areas you describe. It is not an even lighting at all. It is much better than my Kindle 3 lighted cover. It is not as in the promotion videos and reviews!
The Kindle Fire has the same issue. The splotches at the bottom are from the LED/LCD. You might not notice it unless you are in a reader app using a theme like sepia.
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Okay I lied--another thing too: The somewhat fuzziness of the fonts at lower light brightness levels is fairly obvious to me to be the additional substrate layers. When Sony first made touch screen eReaders they had terribly fuzzy fonts. The fuzziness isn't that bad as the PRS-x00 line, but it is definately caused by the substrate IMO. I was so afraid this would be the case, but was hoping I would be pleasantly surprised. But to be brutally honest, the new KPW screen when viewed with the light totally off shows fonts pretty close to the fuzziness level of pre-Pearl screens. The KPW screen with light off looks to be just better than the old pre-Pearl screens and much worse than the first Pearl screens. Yuk!!
Is this at a certain font size or something, because I'm looking at mine right now has I can't see any fuzziness like you used to see on some earlier generation devices.

I'm wondering if the lamination of the screen layers is better on some screens than others or something.
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Okay I lied--another thing too: The somewhat fuzziness of the fonts at lower light brightness levels is fairly obvious to me to be the additional substrate layers. When Sony first made touch screen eReaders they had terribly fuzzy fonts. The fuzziness isn't that bad as the PRS-x00 line, but it is definately caused by the substrate IMO. I was so afraid this would be the case, but was hoping I would be pleasantly surprised. But to be brutally honest, the new KPW screen when viewed with the light totally off shows fonts pretty close to the fuzziness level of pre-Pearl screens. The KPW screen with light off looks to be just better than the old pre-Pearl screens and much worse than the first Pearl screens. Yuk!!
Time to call for a replacement. I think you got a grey eInk which I did when I first got my K4 last year. I wouldn't settle with it.
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Because it's treated as one word, and if it started on the 4th line, it would need to read "red--" and there isn't enough space for "red--".
This then is a serious bug in the Kindle software. It should be treated as red- not as red--. I don't know of any other reading software or even word processing software that has this bug.
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