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Old 09-25-2012, 07:00 AM   #16
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I don't know of any company that stops selling one device because in a few weeks they will begin selling something newer. Is there nothing on the FNAC website indicating that new devices are doming?
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I don't know of any company that stops selling one device because in a few weeks they will begin selling something newer. Is there nothing on the FNAC website indicating that new devices are doming?
It is not that they would stop, it is that they just started this week. It would be more reasonable to start with the new hardware.

And there is nothing in the site concerning the new versions of Kobo.
The Kobo touch is per si the novelty.
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The Kobo Touch is being sold up here still by Indigo, even with the other new models coming - or did you expect Portugal to sell the Glo before the rest of the world, because Fnac just started carrying Kobo products?

They can't sell what they don't have, or blow the street date. Expecting them to sell the Glo first is like expecting Amazon to sell the Paperwhite in the UK before the US, just because Amazon opened up UK sales for the Kindle Fire recently.
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The Kobo Touch is being sold up here still by Indigo, even with the other new models coming - or did you expect Portugal to sell the Glo before the rest of the world, because Fnac just started carrying Kobo products?

They can't sell what they don't have, or blow the street date. Expecting them to sell the Glo first is like expecting Amazon to sell the Paperwhite in the UK before the US, just because Amazon opened up UK sales for the Kindle Fire recently.
I think the point is that it would be less horrible for people to launch the Touch at the same time as the Glo... The way it is now, first nothing was available, now the Touch is available. People get excited and buy a Touch, then a few weeks later surprise surprise, the Glo comes out, pissing everyone who bought a Touch off.

That's just not nice at all. They should at least advertise that the Glo is coming soon. Otherwise, they should have kept the Touch in the basement until the Glo was there to sell as well, to give people a choice.
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Does anyone know what the import duty percentage for importing into Canada is?
Highly variable depending on product (some special markers I bought for work from the U.S. were almost double price by the time duty and import fees got tacked on) and I'm not sure on electronics.
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I think the point is that it would be less horrible for people to launch the Touch at the same time as the Glo... The way it is now, first nothing was available, now the Touch is available. People get excited and buy a Touch, then a few weeks later surprise surprise, the Glo comes out, pissing everyone who bought a Touch off.

That's just not nice at all. They should at least advertise that the Glo is coming soon. Otherwise, they should have kept the Touch in the basement until the Glo was there to sell as well, to give people a choice.
That's like saying Amazon should stop selling Kindles overseas because they've launched the Paperwhite in the US - they won't do that. What they CAN do is put ads in the stores to advise this is the 'entry' level model, and there are two other models coming out.

Especially since FNAC has been selling Kobo Touch devices in France for quite some time now. Yes, now it's in Portugal - but they don't have to immediately stop sales just because a new device is on the horizon. What they can do is advertise the new device and price-drop the Touch, as they have in other markets.
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...some special markers I bought for work from the U.S. were almost double price by the time duty and import fees got tacked on...
Good grief!! How much more expensive would they have been without FREE trade (NAFTA)?
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Does anyone know what the import duty percentage for importing into Canada is?
Am I reading this wrong? Why would you want to import into Canada? Kobo is a Canadian company (yes, now owned by Rakuten) headquartered on Liberty St in Toronto. So, it should be really easy to get hold of one in Canada. Back when they launched the Touch, it was easier to walk into any Indigo Books and pick one up on the launch day (mind you, Canada Post was in the middle of one of the worst postal strikes ever so that did hamper online sales).

Now, if you are thinking of importing from Canada to Australia, I doubt you would have any duty because the value is below AUD500. From what I understand, they only hit you with GST once it goes above AUD500 anything below, just gets ignored.
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I think the point is that it would be less horrible for people to launch the Touch at the same time as the Glo... The way it is now, first nothing was available, now the Touch is available. People get excited and buy a Touch, then a few weeks later surprise surprise, the Glo comes out, pissing everyone who bought a Touch off.

That's just not nice at all. They should at least advertise that the Glo is coming soon. Otherwise, they should have kept the Touch in the basement until the Glo was there to sell as well, to give people a choice.
Didn't Kobo say they were launching the 3 new devices but the Touch would still be available? I can see what you are saying and agree, they could have waited a week and launched all of them instead of getting early sales and then a week later saying to those people "na na you should have waited a week na na "
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The price in Canada is $130.

I'm still trying to work out the various scenarios in the various countries.
The price in Canada is quoted before either GST and PST/QST or HST (harmonized sales tax so you get nicked for the GST and PST in one number) so add a minimum of 5% to the price if you are in Alberta or the territories (Yukon, NorthWest Territory and Nunavut) which don't have a provincial sales tax to a high of 15.5% in Prince Edward Island. So your final price would range from $136.50 to $151.50. Quebec and PEI have the nasty habit of adding the 5% GST and then charging the QST/PST on that total whereas the other provinces either have an HST or charge both taxes on the original price.

To make it fun in beautiful British Columbia, we voted down the HST and are converting back to a GST/PST scenario. My betting is that it won't save the average British Columbian a nickel in the long run. I would have said a penny except the last Canadian penny was made in July, 2012.
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The rates vary wildly depending on what you are importing and where you are importing from. You also run into the "class or kind not made in Canada" clauses which levy reduced to no duties on anything that falls under those clauses.
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That's like saying Amazon should stop selling Kindles overseas because they've launched the Paperwhite in the US - they won't do that. What they CAN do is put ads in the stores to advise this is the 'entry' level model, and there are two other models coming out.

Especially since FNAC has been selling Kobo Touch devices in France for quite some time now. Yes, now it's in Portugal - but they don't have to immediately stop sales just because a new device is on the horizon. What they can do is advertise the new device and price-drop the Touch, as they have in other markets.
I'm sorry, it appears I wasn't quite clear. I was elaborating on the original post by cesarx4s, which is talking about Portugal only and never mentions stopping sales anywhere. It's got nothing to do with Kindles or Amazon or separate locations. And the Touch has been in France for a while, that's fine. We're zooming in on Portugal only for a second. They launched the Touch just a week and half before the Glo gets there as well. No, they shouldn't stop their sales because the Glo is coming, it would have been nicer to not launch the Touch until the Glo was ready, so people would have a fair choice. At least they should have advertised the Glo so people buying the Touch know they'll be able to buy it cheaper in a few weeks, or buy a Glo instead.

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Didn't Kobo say they were launching the 3 new devices but the Touch would still be available? I can see what you are saying and agree, they could have waited a week and launched all of them instead of getting early sales and then a week later saying to those people "na na you should have waited a week na na "
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It is not that they would stop, it is that they just started this week. It would be more reasonable to start with the new hardware.

And there is nothing in the site concerning the new versions of Kobo.
The Kobo touch is per si the novelty.
Well, I don't know what the policies are in Portugal, but I would guess that in some places a whole lot of devices would be returned/exchanged when the new devices were released--assuming the new ones do come to Portugal in a couple of weeks.

The launch schedule (and/or the website content) may have been a FNAC decision, rather than Kobo's.

FWIW, whenever a new product is announced--even if people lightly following tech probably ran into a discussion of new hardware to come--there are always outcries from folks who feel ripped off because they bought the older ones. My cell phone contract is up and I am looking at a Note. There isn't a hint about the new version being available very soon on my provider's website.

It's always a lousy situation to be caught up in this sort of thing. Feels like a gotcha.
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Best Buy is preordering the Glo for US$130 in the US, which has no national sales tax.
If I were to order a Kobo Glo today from Best Buy in the US it would cost $139.45 ($129.99 plus $9.46 sales tax for my area of Minnesota, assuming free shipping) which is about $134.65 AU.

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