Register Guidelines E-Books Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book General > General Discussions

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-18-2012, 11:26 PM   #31
AnemicOak
Bookaholic
AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
AnemicOak's Avatar
 
Posts: 10,428
Karma: 28936355
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Minnesota
Device: HDX 8.9, AuraHD, Nook HD+, Kindle 2,3,T , Opus, Nexus7, iPhone5, etc
Quote:
Originally Posted by JSWolf View Post
If this didn't happen, Penguin would still be allowing current eBooks to be at the library and I could read Fall of Giants as an eBook for free.
Proof? I don't think this is 100% correct, because measures could have been put in place to not allow Penguin books for Kindle (or are already), but still allow ePub. Last time I looked 100% of the books through OverDrive as ePub are also available for Kindle.
AnemicOak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 03:59 AM   #32
Fbone
Is that a sandwich?
Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Fbone's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,487
Karma: 68936103
Join Date: Jun 2010
Device: Searching ...
Quote:
Originally Posted by JSWolf View Post
The problem is that Amazon got into bed with Overdrive and Penguin got upset because Amazon & Overdrive are breaking the terms of the contract saying that eBooks from Overdrive have to come from Overdrive's servers. Amazon is using their servers to supply the eBooks & DRM. This violates the contract. If this didn't happen, Penguin would still be allowing current eBooks to be at the library and I could read Fall of Giants as an eBook for free.
Your library doesn't have Fall of Giants?
Fbone is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Advertisement
Old 09-19-2012, 06:31 AM   #33
tubemonkey
monkey on the fringe
tubemonkey ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tubemonkey ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tubemonkey ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tubemonkey ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tubemonkey ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tubemonkey ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tubemonkey ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tubemonkey ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tubemonkey ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tubemonkey ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tubemonkey ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
tubemonkey's Avatar
 
Posts: 17,244
Karma: 84019453
Join Date: May 2010
Device: FireHDX8, FireHD6, FirePhn, Nex7, K4S, ClipZip
Quote:
Originally Posted by JSWolf View Post
If this didn't happen, Penguin would still be allowing current eBooks to be at the library and I could read Fall of Giants as an eBook for free.
I can get it at my libraries in the following formats: EPUB, PDF, MP3, WMA.
tubemonkey is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 06:40 AM   #34
drofgnal
Evangelist
drofgnal ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.drofgnal ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.drofgnal ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.drofgnal ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.drofgnal ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.drofgnal ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.drofgnal ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.drofgnal ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.drofgnal ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.drofgnal ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.drofgnal ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 470
Karma: 1563122
Join Date: Dec 2009
Device: Kindle4NT/iphone/ipad/ipad mini
Fall of giants just recently dropped to 9.99 in the kindle store. It didn't drop to that for long after the paperback release. Giants was still 18.99 a few months ago. Already Winter suffers in amazon rating from 1 star reviews complaining of price.
drofgnal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 06:54 AM   #35
spindlegirl
Grand Scheme of Things
spindlegirl ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.spindlegirl ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.spindlegirl ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.spindlegirl ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.spindlegirl ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.spindlegirl ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.spindlegirl ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.spindlegirl ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.spindlegirl ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.spindlegirl ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.spindlegirl ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
spindlegirl's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,238
Karma: 9848175
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Near a Tim Hortons, most likely.
Device: Sony PRS-T2 (Black), K4, Moonreader pro on my LG Nexus 4 phone
LOL, $25.26 for the kindle version.
$21 for the hard cover.

I see a lot of that for the popular new books. This is why I use my Kindle for freebies and public domain, and just use my library card for everything else. Maybe if I am lucky I can pick it up at the Library discard sale in a few months. They often have popular titles in the discard bin, that have minimal damage.
spindlegirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 07:18 AM   #36
joehunt
Connoisseur forever
joehunt ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.joehunt ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.joehunt ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.joehunt ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.joehunt ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.joehunt ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.joehunt ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.joehunt ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.joehunt ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.joehunt ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.joehunt ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
joehunt's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,037
Karma: 6230964
Join Date: Sep 2011
Device: iPad3, Sony 650, K3, KT, PW2, Voyage
Quote:
Originally Posted by drofgnal View Post
Already Winter suffers in amazon rating from 1 star reviews complaining of price.
It appears that Amazon is removing 1 star reviews stating the price is too high. I noticed several yesterday (including one which was complaining about Amazon removing these reviews) which are gone today.
joehunt is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 07:26 AM   #37
spindlegirl
Grand Scheme of Things
spindlegirl ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.spindlegirl ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.spindlegirl ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.spindlegirl ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.spindlegirl ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.spindlegirl ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.spindlegirl ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.spindlegirl ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.spindlegirl ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.spindlegirl ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.spindlegirl ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
spindlegirl's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,238
Karma: 9848175
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Near a Tim Hortons, most likely.
Device: Sony PRS-T2 (Black), K4, Moonreader pro on my LG Nexus 4 phone
Quote:
Originally Posted by joehunt View Post
It appears that Amazon is removing 1 star reviews stating the price is too high. I noticed several yesterday (including one which was complaining about Amazon removing these reviews) which are gone today.
There are lots of discussion threads complaining of price, though. And I agree, publisher greed is outrageous, but the only response people can do is to "not buy" and say outright why they aren't buying on any forum that will allow it.
spindlegirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 08:55 AM   #38
TimW
Guru
TimW ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TimW ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TimW ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TimW ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TimW ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TimW ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TimW ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TimW ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TimW ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TimW ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TimW ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
TimW's Avatar
 
Posts: 929
Karma: 6574386
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Southeastern Kentucky
Device: KFHD8.9, KK3G, KPW1, Sony PRST1, Sony PRS350, iPod Touch 5G
Quote:
Originally Posted by tubemonkey View Post
I can get it at my libraries in the following formats: EPUB, PDF, MP3, WMA.
Mine has all those as well as 'Zon format.
TimW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 09:00 AM   #39
tubemonkey
monkey on the fringe
tubemonkey ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tubemonkey ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tubemonkey ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tubemonkey ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tubemonkey ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tubemonkey ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tubemonkey ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tubemonkey ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tubemonkey ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tubemonkey ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.tubemonkey ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
tubemonkey's Avatar
 
Posts: 17,244
Karma: 84019453
Join Date: May 2010
Device: FireHDX8, FireHD6, FirePhn, Nex7, K4S, ClipZip
Quote:
Originally Posted by TimW View Post
Mine has all those as well as 'Zon format.
Funny, I live in the Land of Zon and none of my libraries are as blessed as yours.
tubemonkey is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 11:33 AM   #40
AnemicOak
Bookaholic
AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
AnemicOak's Avatar
 
Posts: 10,428
Karma: 28936355
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Minnesota
Device: HDX 8.9, AuraHD, Nook HD+, Kindle 2,3,T , Opus, Nexus7, iPhone5, etc
Quote:
Originally Posted by drofgnal View Post
Fall of giants just recently dropped to 9.99 in the kindle store. It didn't drop to that for long after the paperback release. Giants was still 18.99 a few months ago. Already Winter suffers in amazon rating from 1 star reviews complaining of price.
The Fall of Giants mass market paperback didn't come out until the start of this month. A few months ago the only releases were the Hardcover and Trade PB both of which have/had high list prices.
AnemicOak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 11:51 AM   #41
JSWolf
Resident Curmudgeon
JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
JSWolf's Avatar
 
Posts: 38,530
Karma: 19637653
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts
Device: Kobo Aura H2O, Sony PRS-650, Sony PRS-T1, nook STR, iPad 1, iPhone 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnemicOak View Post
Proof? I don't think this is 100% correct, because measures could have been put in place to not allow Penguin books for Kindle (or are already), but still allow ePub. Last time I looked 100% of the books through OverDrive as ePub are also available for Kindle.
Penguin pulled Kindle eBooks from the library in protest. Then they put them back and decided to not allow any new eBooks be it ePub or Kindle. This is because Overdrive/Amazon broke the agreement.
JSWolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 12:16 PM   #42
AnemicOak
Bookaholic
AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
AnemicOak's Avatar
 
Posts: 10,428
Karma: 28936355
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Minnesota
Device: HDX 8.9, AuraHD, Nook HD+, Kindle 2,3,T , Opus, Nexus7, iPhone5, etc
Quote:
Originally Posted by JSWolf View Post
Penguin pulled Kindle eBooks from the library in protest. Then they put them back and decided to not allow any new eBooks be it ePub or Kindle. This is because Overdrive/Amazon broke the agreement.
When and where did they say they weren't allowing any new eBooks strictly because of the Kindle deal? I know it happened around the same time, but if that was the reason (or the only reason) then they'd be selling their full catalog through other library services like 3M.

I think it was an excuse for them to get out of something they didn't want to do anymore under current terms and if it hadn't been that it would have been something else. From reading various things it sounds like one of the reasons they were pissed about the Amazon library deal was that Amazon refused to share customer data with them. Yes, apparently OverDrive broke an agreement, although supposedly they also consulted with the various publishers before any of this went live and none voiced complaints. So again I ask for some kind of info from Penguin that states that the reason they stopped selling library books was due to the Kindle deal (which they had already shown they could limit when they had OD remove the Kindle versions of their books for a time).
AnemicOak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 02:50 PM   #43
Fbone
Is that a sandwich?
Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Fbone's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,487
Karma: 68936103
Join Date: Jun 2010
Device: Searching ...
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnemicOak View Post
When and where did they say they weren't allowing any new eBooks strictly because of the Kindle deal? I know it happened around the same time, but if that was the reason (or the only reason) then they'd be selling their full catalog through other library services like 3M.
Penguin is offering their catalog to 3M with a 6 month delay. Trial program in NYC that could expand. It doesn't appear 3M is operating fully at this time. I looked at Kansas' setup and it's very slow and not user friendly.

http://www.nypl.org/press/press-rele...-pilot-program

Of course, I don't know if this has anything to do with Amazon.
Fbone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 03:01 PM   #44
AnemicOak
Bookaholic
AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnemicOak ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
AnemicOak's Avatar
 
Posts: 10,428
Karma: 28936355
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Minnesota
Device: HDX 8.9, AuraHD, Nook HD+, Kindle 2,3,T , Opus, Nexus7, iPhone5, etc
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fbone View Post
Penguin is offering their catalog to 3M with a 6 month delay. Trial program in NYC that could expand. It doesn't appear 3M is operating fully at this time. I looked at Kansas' setup and it's very slow and not user friendly.

http://www.nypl.org/press/press-rele...-pilot-program

Of course, I don't know if this has anything to do with Amazon.
Thanks for the info. At one point they were only offering a limited number of titles to 3M, I hadn't read that they'd made the entire catalog available (even if it is delayed).
AnemicOak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 06:22 PM   #45
Fbone
Is that a sandwich?
Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Fbone ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Fbone's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,487
Karma: 68936103
Join Date: Jun 2010
Device: Searching ...
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnemicOak View Post
Thanks for the info. At one point they were only offering a limited number of titles to 3M, I hadn't read that they'd made the entire catalog available (even if it is delayed).
YW, I was hoping that 3M's platform would be a good Overdrive alternative. It doesn't currently appear to be the case.
Fbone is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
It's IMPOSSIBLE to price ebooks too high leebase General Discussions 113 01-26-2011 10:30 PM
'What Price Liberty' available pre-publication as variable price ebook garygibsonsf Deals, Freebies, and Resources (No Self-Promotion) 2 11-04-2010 11:38 PM
Sony 300 too high a price in Canada onewayherway Which one should I buy? 8 08-26-2009 02:56 PM
Why is the price of eBooks still so high ? Polyglot27 News 15 02-02-2009 06:58 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:57 PM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.