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Old 09-17-2012, 04:43 PM   #16
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Nothing but a mob of consumer zombies who need apple products to make themselves feel good inside, i think it's rather sad.

Would most normal people stand out side a shop for 5 days stait just to buy a phone ?i and all my freinds in a large number of different countries certainly would not
I feel pity for any person that would go that far to buy a brand product no matter who make it - apple ,samsung,asus ect ect
Yes pity indeed, for these people are victims of a relentless advertising campaign by Jobs and co. Pioneering research on brainwashing was undertaken by the Nazis during WW2, and not surprisingly this fell into the hands of the CIA afterwards. Later on when this stuff became common knowledge and was declassified, corporations like Apple studied and incorporated it into their philosophy. What many don't know is that Apple is a place of secrets where one branch doesn't know what the other is doing, only recently its been revealed that Jobs and had a secret program going called iControl which would be built into all apple software. Not much is known about it except that its deeply embedded in the iAds framework. Obviously this program was the one deeply concerned with brainwashing techniques.

Scary stuff I know!! But I don't blame the zombies for their own state, they are victims of course. Victims of Jobs and his iControl!!
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The real question is - what do the phone companies pay Apple for each phone?
why is this the real question?
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In the third world people travel for days on end and line up for the most basic of necessitate like DRINKING WATER and food.

Which line is more important to you ?

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Good thing it was such a disappointment, or Apple would really be in trouble.
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Yes pity indeed, for these people are victims of a relentless advertising campaign by Jobs and co. Pioneering research on brainwashing was undertaken by the Nazis during WW2, and not surprisingly this fell into the hands of the CIA afterwards. Later on when this stuff became common knowledge and was declassified, corporations like Apple studied and incorporated it into their philosophy. What many don't know is that Apple is a place of secrets where one branch doesn't know what the other is doing, only recently its been revealed that Jobs and had a secret program going called iControl which would be built into all apple software. Not much is known about it except that its deeply embedded in the iAds framework. Obviously this program was the one deeply concerned with brainwashing techniques.

Scary stuff I know!! But I don't blame the zombies for their own state, they are victims of course. Victims of Jobs and his iControl!!
I like this guy.
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In the third world people travel for days on end and line up for the most basic of necessitate like DRINKING WATER and food.

Which line is more import to you ?
I agree its disgusting! But I predict a fall for Apple soon! Samsungs all ready way ahead!
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Good thing it was such a disappointment, or Apple would really be in trouble.
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I agree its disgusting! But I predict a fall for Apple soon! Samsungs all ready way ahead!
How fast is Samsung converting Apple iPhone loyalists into Android loyalists?

Serious question: Apple not dead until Android companies start doing this.
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why is this the real question?
Because most of the other questions are rather inane?
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How fast is Samsung converting Apple iPhone loyalists into Android loyalists?

Serious question: Apple not dead until Android companies start doing this.
You can already see apple stagnating. Now that Jobs is gone, theres no more ideas for them. Every year itll just be ... iphone 6, 7 ...ect. There done!! Cook's got no ideas. All Ive can think of is to make things slimmer until they're nonexistent. Forstall only cares about making software that looks like pretty leather bound notebooks or book page effects!!

Pretty soon people are going to want features, and new types of devices. They'll convert soon enough as Android grows and grows!! Samsungs just the conquerer that will make way for a flood of companies who can all design rectangular phones!!
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“Given our assumption of approximately $425 in carrier subsidies per handset, we believe the U.S. carrier market could be on the hook for more than $10 billion over the last three and a half months of the year alone, entirely due to the new iPhone launch.”
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it’s not all gloom and doom for the carriers. They get new contract customers in a saturated mobile market that will use a lot of data. Since the carriers are doing everything they can to move customers to the newer and more profitable shared data plans, the up front margin loss should work itself out over the life of those contracts.
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We all tend to look at the benefits of what the iPhone has brought to the industry. But, what about the negatives? This is one of them. Apple commands such a high dollar amount that carriers are perceived to absorb the costs. Initially? yes. Indirectly? no.

The subsidized pricing difference for customers to walk out the door with an iphone is minimal. Upfront costs for carriers isn’t. Carriers then have to adjust their price plans accordingly to offset the cost. Guess who pays for that whether we want to support Apple’s ecosystem or not? ... Today, carriers have made it easy for anyone to afford an Apple device while making Apple very rich. But, it does come to the expense of EVERYONE; not just Apple consumers.

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You can already see apple stagnating.
Not yet. Just forecasts. Selling iphone still very profitable business.
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No, what is sad is your post. I guess no one ever buys the iPhone because it best fits their needs. They are all just a bunch of lemmings, right?
There is nothing wrong with buying what best suits your needs, but queuing for 5 days which that previous post was clearly commenting on is a pretty good definition of sad by anyone's measure.
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"Which line is more important to you ?"
If you are a starving person in sub Saharan Africa the food line is more important.

If you are a well fed, gainfully employed person in New York city USA with a liking for tech stuff
the Iphone line is more important.

As long as no one is forcing you into either line
why should you be so upset??

At least Apple (or any tech company) is actually producing a tangible product and selling it to the eager masses to acquire their billions.

Instead of just stealing money from the Masses like Banks & Insurance companies .
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If you are a starving person in sub Saharan Africa the food line is more important.

If you are a well fed, gainfully employed person in New York city USA with a liking for tech stuff
the Iphone line is more important.

As long as no one is forcing you into either line
why should you be so upset??

At least Apple (or any tech company) is actually producing a tangible product and selling it to the eager masses to acquire their billions.

Instead of just stealing money from the Masses like Banks & Insurance companies .
Yeah but maybe you standing in line for the iphone is indirectly forcing those africans to stand in theirs. Did you ever consider that?
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