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Old 09-15-2012, 02:20 PM   #31
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They might have tried to discourage it and blatantly lied in the process, but they didn't ever take someone to court and fine them for taping a handful of songs off the radio though, did they?
Not really the same thing, but lots of people were prosecuted in the UK for swapping bootleg videos in the post when horror films were made illegal. Like with the internet, they scoured classified adverts in magazines looking for them.
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Old 09-15-2012, 02:34 PM   #32
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If charging a guy $190 for what his ex-wife admitted to doing seems like a great idea to you, then I think we're at an impasse and aren't going to agree.
It's not his ex-wife. It was his wife. (I think the article said soon-to-be-ex-wife).

I don't see a justice issue with giving the guy a small fine after three warnings when his home computer was used by his wife.

But I really don't understand the $11 billion dollars. At all. That's a *huge* amount of money and I really can't understand what they have found to spend it on. The *entire tax revenue* of my state (population 6 million) for one year is about $13 billion.
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Regardless to whether it was his wife or ex wife, she should have been the one punished not him.
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Old 09-15-2012, 03:50 PM   #34
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But I really don't understand the $11 billion dollars. At all. That's a *huge* amount of money and I really can't understand what they have found to spend it on. The *entire tax revenue* of my state (population 6 million) for one year is about $13 billion.
Techdirt recently said (here) that it costs 12 million euros a year to run Hadopi.
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Techdirt recently said (here) that it costs 12 million euros a year to run Hadopi.
That makes a *lot* more sense. (Not that what is true and what makes sense are always in alignment.)
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Techdirt recently said (here) that it costs 12 million euros a year to run Hadopi.
According to French media, €12 million is the 2013 budget request. But we are now in the ballpark.

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No evidence concerning books.

I know that English speakers are adopting eBooks more quickly than French speakers, so book statistics probably are not yet available.

My evidence-free suggestion is that readers are, on average, more risk adverse than the music and video crowd, in part because of being older. A Hadopi type of law should work better with them.

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$190 is ridiculously lenient.
I would have chosen a lower amount, but this seems fair to me.
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If they extradite him to the US and leave him to the tender mercies of the **AA, he'd be paying $600,000 for sharing 12 songs.
You may be conflating criminal and civil proceedings. You can't get extradited because you were sued by a trade group.

As for $600,000, I don't know where this amount comes from, and the RIAA lawsuits stopped several years ago.
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