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Old 09-08-2012, 01:10 AM   #1
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Kindle Fire Default Search Engine: Microsofts Bing

It just seems so wrong on a Google OS device.

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We haven't gotten our hands on a new Kindle Fire just yet, but we now know that Microsoft's Bing is the default search engine on the device's Web browser.
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We contacted Amazon, and have received confirmation that Bing will indeed be the default search engine. Amazon told us that users can switch to Google or Yahoo if they'd like.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/...search-engine/
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Old 09-08-2012, 01:23 AM   #2
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It just seems so wrong on a Google OS device.





http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/...search-engine/
Yet makes a certain degree of sense when you consider that Google is a fiercer competitor for Amazon than Microsoft is. Apple has started de-emphasising/removing Google services for that reason.
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Old 09-08-2012, 11:32 AM   #3
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As long as I can switch to Google, I'm fine. I hate Bing.
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Old 09-08-2012, 12:20 PM   #4
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Yes you can.
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Old 09-08-2012, 01:48 PM   #5
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As long as I can switch to Google I'm fine. Can't stand Bing.
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Old 09-08-2012, 09:24 PM   #6
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As long as I can switch to Google I'm fine. Can't stand Bing.
For what it's worth, Bing Maps seems to be more fully-featured than Google Maps when it comes to transit directions, at least in cities I've compared them in.
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Old 09-08-2012, 09:35 PM   #7
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Yet makes a certain degree of sense when you consider that Google is a fiercer competitor for Amazon than Microsoft is. Apple has started de-emphasising/removing Google services for that reason.
Companies pay *big* money to be the default search engine. Google recently agreed to pay Mozilla $300 million per year (for the next three years) to have Google remain the default search engine on Firefox. It was apparently 3 times more than they paid previously because MS was bidding against them.

So the Fire may have less trouble breaking even than one might think.
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Old 09-08-2012, 11:25 PM   #8
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Old 09-08-2012, 11:34 PM   #9
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As far as I'm concerned, a search engine isn't "part of" a Web browser. I have never used the search bar on any browser on any device. I remove that bar so there's more room for the address bar, and use Google as my home page.
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Old 09-08-2012, 11:54 PM   #10
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As far as I'm concerned, a search engine isn't "part of" a Web browser. I have never used the search bar on any browser on any device. I remove that bar so there's more room for the address bar, and use Google as my home page.
With firefox, you just enter your search in the address bar; it can tell whether it's an url or a search by context. I think most modern browsers do this now, but I think FF popularized it.
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Old 09-09-2012, 09:24 AM   #11
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It just seems so wrong on a Google OS device.
I think its clear that Fire is as much "a Google OS device" as the eink readers are Linux devices. Yes, it's in there, part of the plumbing. But it's not what defines them.

Strategically, going with Bing annoys Google, brings in Microsoft money, annoys google, differentiates Fire from the generics, annoys google...
And yes, *seriously* annoy Google.
(Cue in Bezos doing a Korean rap dance.)

(Then again, Google seriously annoys, Apple, Amazon, and Microsoft, among others. Payback can be fun.)
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Old 09-09-2012, 11:16 AM   #12
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I donno, I've started using Bing more often, at first it was just for maps, which it seems to do a lot better than the stagnated Google maps. But I also find that the new google ranking and search personalization changes are really starting to give me low quality or extremely obvious results. Bing also has waaaaaaay less aggressive tracking which is easy to avoid and doesn't break features if bypassed.

Sadly its name is terrible :/
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Old 09-09-2012, 11:41 AM   #13
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Companies pay *big* money to be the default search engine. Google recently agreed to pay Mozilla $300 million per year (for the next three years) to have Google remain the default search engine on Firefox. It was apparently 3 times more than they paid previously because MS was bidding against them.

So the Fire may have less trouble breaking even than one might think.
Must be big money in people (you and I) using a particular search engine. Wish I had a tiny bit of it. After all we are the end users.
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Must be big money in people (you and I) using a particular search engine. Wish I had a tiny bit of it. After all we are the end users.
As far as Google and Microsoft's ad buyers go, *We* are the product. (Or at least our eyeballs.)
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Wow Amazon really are cutting off there nose off to try and spite google's face,who uses Microsoft web browsers these days
I stopped using there clunky internet explorer and there other incantations years ago.
It was Good residence to MICROSFT rubbish once i switched to firefox and google

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