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Old 09-06-2012, 04:36 PM   #1
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Fire Models Are Ad Supported
According to The Verge all of the new Kindle Fire models are ad supported. Ads will be shown on the lock screen. There doesn't appear to be any way to opt out.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/6/329...special-offers
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Old 09-06-2012, 04:58 PM   #2
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Their report is inaccurate at least as far as the KPW goes: it is listed at $119 with Special offers and $139 without.
I'd take the rest of it with a grain of salt for a while. A lot of things with the new FIRE's are undetermined. Like FIRE HD9 battery life.
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Their report is inaccurate at least as far as the KPW goes: it is listed at $119 with Special offers and $139 without.
My post only stated the Fire models were ad only.
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:04 PM   #4
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I wonder if this means that other Kindle's with "special offers" will be seeing new offers much like the ones we saw when the KSO came out.
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:23 PM   #5
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I don't think "ad supported" and "special offers" are the same thing. Ad supported described above is ads on the screen saver. The special offers are more intrusive, aren't they?
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The special offers are more intrusive, aren't they?
If you mean the SO's on the eInk Kindles then no. They are used for the "screen saver"/sleep screen and as a small banner at the bottom of the home screen and that's it. You never see them when actually reading or anything like that.
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The ads on the Fire will be on the lock screen (and on a corner of the home page?). But here's what I wonder: can you opt out of the ads for $20, as on the e-ink Kindles? There doesn't seem to be any way to do that (or higher-priced ad-free models), which is pretty crappy, no?

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The new Kindle Paperwhites are $119 with SO and $139 w/o. You will see this price when ordering one. The new Fires each have Special Offers. I can say that these SOs were very popular for the early Kindles. I don't know if they will be the same quality, but a lot of people offset the entire price of the Kindles with the money saved on these offers. Of course, some would question would someone have purchased the products in the first place if the ads did not run on the device. These offers are unobtrusive in what you use the device for and are tucked very neatly out of the way.
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..There doesn't seem to be any way to do that (or higher-priced ad-free models), which is pretty crappy, no?

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I didn't see anyplace where you can opt out. There should be a model where you should be able to opt out if you want to pay extra. That is only fair.
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Old 09-06-2012, 09:30 PM   #10
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I didn't see anyplace where you can opt out. There should be a model where you should be able to opt out if you want to pay extra. That is only fair.
I agree. I would gladly pay a little bit more to avoid the ads altogether.
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:43 PM   #11
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I can say that these SOs were very popular for the early Kindles. I don't know if they will be the same quality, but a lot of people offset the entire price of the Kindles with the money saved on these offers. Of course, some would question would someone have purchased the products in the first place if the ads did not run on the device.
I saved enough money from those early offers to pay for my Kindle twice. And I only counted offers for items I planned on buying anyway.
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I never look at the ads. They are only on the screen for a second before my book comes up.
i've gotta agree. i literally couldn't tell you what the ads on my kindle are if i had a gun against my head. my eyes slip right over them.

putting a little strip i don't even notice is a far trade for saving money. i'd get a bee in my bonnet if they had ads and still charged top dollar.
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At first, I was a little miffed at the idea that the new Kindle Fires would only be "Special Offer"/ad-supported.

Then I thought about it. If Amazon wants to throw money at me for buying their products, why shouldn't I let them?
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When you spend money, even with a special offer, you're really not saving money (or costing amazon)
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