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Old 09-06-2012, 05:36 PM   #361
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They are (alas) doing competitive design; since neither Kobo nor Nook has audio (and Sony just dropped it) they dropped the audio + tts. Apparently the audible sales didn't justify it.
Regretable.
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Old 09-06-2012, 05:37 PM   #362
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Are you saying I should exchange it instead?
Factor in the return shipping charges you'll have to pay for sending back a non-defective device.
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Old 09-06-2012, 05:37 PM   #363
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Disappointed with no audio/TTS. I don't use it much, but still. (And it is not clear that Fire HD has TTS, just the audiobook whispersync thing). And only 2GB now (actually only 1.25GB available). Crap.

I just ordered one, and will probably not cancel, but my vibe is a little harshed.

Note the $49.99 4G plan for Fire HD LTE is just for the first year. After that, presumably it goes up to the normal $14.99/mo that AT&T charges.

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Old 09-06-2012, 05:38 PM   #364
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I didn't realize there were differences in the two models. Return/repurchase is definitely the way to go.
Is the form factor the same? Wondering if I need to return my case as well.
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Old 09-06-2012, 05:38 PM   #365
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I sent them an e-mail requesting a $10 refund (it will be spent on a book the minute it arrives anyway), I will see how they respond. Exchanging is a lot of hassle. but even though it is probably the same screen it looks whiter, perhaps the contrast to the black bezel?
I would kill to have black bezel on mine. The contrast is poor but I added a custom font to make it darker which makes up for it. I know in the latest firmware they said better Text but I didn't see it so I am thinking black, bezel, more storage, fonts and price drop has just made this the almost perfect reader. If it had a light it would be perfect!
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Factor in the return shipping charges you'll have to pay for sending back a non-defective device.
I believe they supply free shipping. If not, then yes, that has to be factored in.
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Old 09-06-2012, 05:39 PM   #367
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But the kindle always had tts!

D$&@ you Bezos. May birds droppings land on your bald head.

Oh well, I guess nobody wants my crummy $120.
I think they have slowly been phasing it out if you look at the previously released models.

Least I know of alternatives. Yeah, Audible would be nice, but I don't want the monthly expense to go along with all the other monthly bills.
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Old 09-06-2012, 05:39 PM   #368
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Is the form factor the same? Wondering if I need to return my case as well.
Looks like it.

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Old 09-06-2012, 05:40 PM   #369
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I just ordered one, but will have to think now.
I'm still thinking a bit too, but figured I'd pre-order and get in line. Can always cancel (and they have a good return policy too).
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Old 09-06-2012, 05:40 PM   #370
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Having access to Google Play and receiving the latest version of the OS (without rooting) is key. The Fire HD's (possibly/slightly) better hardware isn't worth being dragged into Amazon's exclusive ecosphere.

I can still read Amazon books and listen to Amazon music on my Nexus 7.
Yeah; the only thing from Amazon's ecosystem you can't put on another Android tablet is Amazon Instant Video. No big deal, because Netflix is better anyway.
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Old 09-06-2012, 05:41 PM   #372
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Factor in the return shipping charges you'll have to pay for sending back a non-defective device.
She can get those waived if she pushes it. She's not returning it because she doesn't want one. She's wants the better one. You may try Kindle support's chat. I've had good and bad experiences. Calling is the best option.
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Is the form factor the same? Wondering if I need to return my case as well.
Yes they are the same dimensions. So keep the case.
6.5" x 4.5" x 0.34" is the K4 and the
NK4 is 6.5" x 4.5" x 0.34"
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Yes they are the same dimensions. So keep the case.
6.5" x 4.5" x 0.34" is the K4 and the
NK4 is 6.5" x 4.5" x 0.34"
Of course keep the case. Black goes with everything!
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True but returning the K4 SO and the case will get me a PW and money back. Off course the PW will also require a case. Ohhhh, decsions, decisions.
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