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Old 09-05-2012, 04:34 PM   #31
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plans plans plans

Ok so to this end then... for gaming chatter I am going to go hunt down http://forums.tigsource.com/index.php a bit. see what is shaking.

And from qlobs suggestions (well what I thought he meant) have a think about porting something legal first.

Notch has done his fair share of hacking along the way
(I even have one of his music singles for the record, I wonder if he has any of mine?) I dont think he would hate me for humping some of his source.
Long as I don't hurt profits anyways. I'll fess up before it gets legal.

So Plan 1) - Covert Miners4k to the Kindle. It's open source, notches old baby (http://www.mojang.com/notch/), and POC. ( I thought this is what qlob was talking about originally, not the full minecraft 4k)

I'm having a look at this now.

http://www.pepere.org/flash-developm...rs4k_u_45.html

http://javaunlimited.net/games/view.php?id=54

Leads to

Plan 2) Go for Minecraft4k (I may just ask notch, he seems open enough to good ideas)

Leads to.

Plan 3) create a monochrome texture pack for MC (sorry Junkboy) and see how we go.... Look at the mod stuff http://notch.tumblr.com/post/4955141...-plan-for-mods and see how we go. etc...


Might I also suggest that a few others have a sniff around in http://java4k.com/index.php?action=home and see what might suit us.


It's as open, honest, and forthright a policy as I can come up with.
For now

Cheers.
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First glance this looks like it will be easier on a 5.
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Update - I've emailed notch and given him the full skinny, I don't forsee a problem but at least we ballsed up and asked.

Last time I did that I got the rights to remix Mike Hardings "Dangermouse" Theme tune in an electro-ish style, Happy days : ) EDIT: GO LISTEN TO MIKE HARDING, HE'S AN AWESOME PLAYER... END EDIT

In the interim it will probably be wise to get my hands on a 5 to begin the dev with swing. and then backport onto the kindle 3 platform when I am sure the jframe stuff is not getting in the way of progress. Better to succeed and work back than smack the head against the wall.

I see a few people have had a quick butchers at the code. looks perfect for a e-ink screen I think.

Cheers. See what Notch says. (or Per, who knows who says what any-more about the code) : )


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Hi Markus.

You probably never heard of me but I do a tune or two myself.

Anyways, I'm going to port your Miners4k to the kindle. not a rework or a new project based on the code techincally, just the same code mungled in the new warpper[sic] with an eink driver.

We chat about these things here http://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=189733

Ultimately I am trying to show that E-ink - and specifically the kindle - can KICK ARSE - even in monochrome.

It's a TRAGICALLY UNDEVELOPED PLATFORM...

... Personal and litigious addendum's elided

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Update - I've emailed notch and given him the full skinny, I don't forsee a problem but at least we ballsed up and asked.

Last time I did that I got the rights to remix Mike Hardings "Dangermouse" Theme tune in an electro-ish style, Happy days : ) EDIT: GO LISTEN TO MIKE HARDING, HE'S AN AWESOME PLAYER... END EDIT

In the interim it will probably be wise to get my hands on a 5 to begin the dev with swing. and then backport onto the kindle 3 platform when I am sure the jframe stuff is not getting in the way of progress. Better to succeed and work back than smack the head against the wall.

I see a few people have had a quick butchers at the code. looks perfect for a e-ink screen I think.

Cheers. See what Notch says. (or Per, who knows who says what any-more about the code) : )
Nice email... If I were you, I would wait and get the rumored "PaperWhite" Kindle... It might be good to wait until the get it jailbroken though.
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They announce on the 12th. I will be receiving mine before that I think.

Shame to miss a new boat but hey ho.
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So yeah. I think hold off on these until the newer device comes through.

I'll have a dig for another 4k to port in the interim. for practice

revisit this when it becomes clearer how to do a smooth control mechanism for the 3 and under.... where's that magic usb port when you need one...

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So yeah. I think hold off on these until the newer device comes through.

I'll have a dig for another 4k to port in the interim. for practice

revisit this when it becomes clearer how to do a smooth control mechanism for the 3 and under.... where's that magic usb port when you need one...

TBC
I thought they were being announced Thursday (tomorrow)...
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Touchy little things aren't they kindles : )

Must reduce into smaller chunks...
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Also I would take input on a likely best input mechanism on a non touch screen.

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Well... the Great KindleWhite Savior was not all I hoped it would be.

The lack of audio really does put a mockers on most of the projects I was interested in.

This thread may die. Time will tell.

Thought it was the decent thing to do, let you know the current mindset.

The likely SDL support has evaporated now, as has full compliance with most gaming conventions. Sad but a relfection of Amazons commitment to compete in the - what it sees as - lucrative pad market.

That leaves us with feature limited devices sadly which - all in - are now even less suited for the job than they were one iteration ago.

Love Minecraft and games of many types, if the new Paperweight device hold some hidden wonder that I have missed then perhaps the flames may be rekindled.
Until that time, shelved.
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Also I would take input on a likely best input mechanism on a non touch screen.
Thanks : D
How about using the five way as a mouse and having w,a,s,d do the same thing as before?

Long center: leftclick
Short center: rightclick
Up: move camera up
Down: move camera down
Left: hopefully you get the point by now....
Right: see above
W: move forwards
A:move backwards
Etc....
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I did think about that, but miners 4k lends itself Perfectly! to a touch screen so..

I dunno, maybe for a test
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I dunno, maybe for a test
Sounds like I need to get myself a KT then...
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