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Old 08-24-2012, 07:46 PM   #16
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If they announce stuff before Apple does at least they can't get sued for copying Apple.

Seriously, Apple used to announce new products in February and June. It is their own fault that they can't keep up with other companies' fast pace in developing new products and schedule their announcements right in the busy season before Christmas when everybody and his dog tries to get their new products on the market. And if Apple was the reason for the exact timing -- why wouldn't the others wait for that magical new product and then try to tweak their own designs after the Apple announcement? Once, when Apple still was the design leader, Samsung did that.

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Old 08-24-2012, 07:54 PM   #17
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The author lost all credibility when they stuck the word 'innovation' in quotations marks. The fact that vendors have to announce their products before Apple does doesn't make their products any less innovative.
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Old 08-24-2012, 08:03 PM   #18
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We're on the third generation model, still sells, works perfectly.
Apple TV havent failed.

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6. Make the Apple TV more than a hobby

The Apple TV is actually selling relatively well—Apple recently said it sold 4 million of the set-top boxes during fiscal 2012, and that was with one quarter left to go. (The company said it sold 1.3 million during the third quarter alone.) That's not iPhone-level sales, but it's roughly the same as Xbox 360 sales during the same period.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/08...year-at-apple/
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Old 08-24-2012, 08:37 PM   #19
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We're on the third generation model, still sells, works perfectly.
I'll be honest, when someone says "Apple TV" to me, what jumps into my mind is the Macintosh TV from '93. It was an LC 5xx with a TV tuner and a black case. It was also a relatively bad market flop even compared to Apple's floundering market share during that time period.
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Old 08-24-2012, 08:47 PM   #20
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Apple TV havent failed.
It's reporting like this which gives the impression that Apple has failed in the world-dominating sense.

The same words are often written by more mainstream journalists about Apple TV. And of course, I'm not talking about Apple's more recent and attractive developments in that area. I'm talking specifically about sales from 2007 to 2011. The Air or iPhone it isn't.

The point usually made is that Apple TV has failed as a standard so far -- that even Netflix is flaying its greenish tart-sweet fruit flesh.

I don't see how anyone can take that as an insult to Apple when we tend to look to them for more active kit. You don't see me belittling Apple's strengths on this thread (but neither do I intend to lick their products verbally -- I believe in choices, not brand wars or inexorable allegiances).

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Old 08-24-2012, 11:17 PM   #21
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Wow, September is gonna be a very busy month. I'm still waiting for the rumored Apple TV to come out any minute. I hope it'll get rid of the terrible design of existing TVs.
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Old 08-25-2012, 12:28 AM   #22
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STOP!!!

Actually, as an avid, and sometimes rabid, Apple fan, even I can't get behind the OP on this one.
I have an iPad and an iPhone 3G. But I do hope the new iPhone is upgrade worthy. I am not a rabid Apple fan.
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Old 08-25-2012, 05:56 PM   #23
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http://blogs.technet.com/b/microsoft...-new-look.aspx

So coloured squares are taken. Who grabs the next thing?
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Old 08-25-2012, 06:47 PM   #24
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There's only a slight difference in the announcements...

Apple: "you can get it [now...within 4 weeks]"
Everyone else: "ETA [next year...never made it]"
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Old 08-25-2012, 07:19 PM   #25
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So coloured squares are taken. Who grabs the next thing?
Color *live* constantly-updating squares.
They're called LIVE-Tiles for more than one reason.
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Old 08-26-2012, 04:02 PM   #26
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Really, you don't think any of these announcements are designed to try and steal some of Apple's thunder?
I don't think it's so much that they want to steal Apple's thunder as they don't want to be drowned out by Apple's thunder. Apple's thunder will be just as loud no matter what Amazon announces..

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Seriously, Apple used to announce new products in February and June.
Apple has traditionally used October to announce iPod products; this slot has been taken over by the iPhone.
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It is their own fault that they can't keep up with other companies' fast pace in developing new products and schedule their announcements right in the busy season before Christmas when everybody and his dog tries to get their new products on the market. And if Apple was the reason for the exact timing -- why wouldn't the others wait for that magical new product and then try to tweak their own designs after the Apple announcement? Once, when Apple still was the design leader, Samsung did that.
Apple has traditionally used October to announce iPod products (and April to announce iPad products); this slot has been taken over by the iPhone. Other products won't wait until afterwards because they wouldn't be able to tweak their designs and get them produced in time for Xmas.
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