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Old 08-18-2012, 12:34 PM   #1
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The king is dead: Can Samsung slay Apple and steal its crown?

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But now Samsung is doing to Apple what Apple did to Microsoft and what Microsoft did to Apple with Windows. So is Samsung replacing Apple, just as Apple replaced Microsoft and as Microsoft replaced Apple? OK, now I’m even getting confused. I’m going to argue Samsung is replacing Apple, much as Samsung replaced Sony, and that this is bad for you, the consumer.
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...you have to agree that Samsung is cycling its products quicker and thus improving them faster than Apple does, which should result in a sustainable execution advantage. Given this is how Samsung beat Sony, one can easily conclude that, using the same strategy, Samsung may be poised to beat Apple.
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Besides Samsung’s speed advantages, there are early indications that Apple is getting weaker. I’m seeing reports out of the Apple stores that satisfaction is dropping as Jobs’ policies of focusing staff on customer satisfaction are replaced by policies focusing staff on sales (and Apple has had a history of underpaying staff). On top of this, the stores appear to be downsizing staff significantly. For the first time, I’m hearing stories of sales experiences similar to those in traditional stores, in which Apple sales reps ambush folks walking in and appear to be operating on commissions now and want to close sales.
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Old 08-18-2012, 12:36 PM   #2
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Anything is possible. I haven't had a lot of luck with their products; I had both a Samsung monitor and cell phone where the screens failed within two years.
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Old 08-18-2012, 12:37 PM   #3
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Anything is possible. I haven't had a lot of luck with their products; I had both a Samsung monitor and cell phone where the screens failed within two years.
Well, I haven't had many Samsung products (a TV, a printer, a phone), but so far all of them work flawlessly. I guess you're bound to have some lemons though.
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Old 08-18-2012, 01:22 PM   #4
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Not likely given Apple's bankroll, but quite possibly in a decade or so. I think it's evident from the lawsuits that Apple is feeling backed into a corner and without Jobs, they definitely are headed in a negative direction. IMO!

Just ran across this: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-...Rivals-175336/

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Old 08-18-2012, 01:53 PM   #5
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It would take 10 years for Apple to squander its bankroll, but only 2 or 3 to lose the shine and glow of the Apple brand.

Personally, I don't think that even if Steve Jobs were alive, he could save them. These days, few remember that Steve Jobs nearly drove the company into the ditch in the old days. His focus and indeed sometimes his genius was all about finding a niche that others had ignored or not seen and pushing it for all it was worth, but at the end of the run, he didn't know when to change gears.

Overall, I think Apple will still be making a lot of sales but not all the sales for the next five years. It will do well but just not be the world beater. Then when folks realize that the stock will not go up anymore they will start selling and it will drop to ordinary "good stock" levels. The products will sell but will become just another good product, and then we shall see what Apple's new management is really made of.
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Old 08-18-2012, 02:35 PM   #6
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Old 08-18-2012, 03:27 PM   #7
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Apple has not taken down Microsoft, MS is still King. I Samsung will not take down Apple either they will still stay strong. What's more they will all be relevant and work in the same space.

The true victor is HTML, Java, and Web standards. Technologies that allows for complicated solution while being platform agnostic. These tools are going to allow everyone to integrate with each other and not tie you to a platform like the old days.

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Old 08-18-2012, 05:51 PM   #8
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Well, I haven't had many Samsung products (a TV, a printer, a phone), but so far all of them work flawlessly. I guess you're bound to have some lemons though.
No doubt about it. The two in a row just disappointed me. I really liked the phone, and I thought my eyesight was going when the monitor failed.
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Old 08-18-2012, 08:24 PM   #9
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Albert Einstein hates Samsung. Or else the 5lb. bust of Einstein was just drunk the night it came crashing down on my Samsung monitor.
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The true victor is HTML, Java, and Web standards. Technologies that allows for complicated solution while being platform agnostic. These tools are going to allow everyone to integrate with each other and not tie you to a platform like the old days.
That's true until MS can pick another standard to kill, once it destroys the traditional BIOS and non-secure EFI.
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Albert Einstein hates Samsung. Or else the 5lb. bust of Einstein was just drunk the night it came crashing down on my Samsung monitor.
That's the Higg's fault.
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You stole my line! I thought of that 5 minutes ago.
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Apple doesn't give a hoot about market share, they are after profit share. By that metric, the competition has a very long way to go to catch up.
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