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Old 08-07-2012, 07:54 PM   #1
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Wanted- Something epic... (SF/ Fantasy)

OK, so I'm bored and looking for an epic, well-written series (Alright, these don't always come hand in hand!)
My primary interest is at the harder end of SF, but fantasy is fine as well, so long as it's well worked out.

I suppose the most important thing to me, is a scenario and world mechanic that actually works and stays in context
I've read far too much where authors suddenly invent a stardrive, magic and so on, but simply fail to think of the technical practicalities, or even invent consistent rules.

Series I've recently enjoyed as a FWIW:
* Ben Bova- The complete set from the Moonwar to the Asteroid wars. Someone who's actually thought about the physics is a rare, rare beastie
* Asimov's foundation series. Introduced to these early, and even have a couple of signed firsts courtesy of my grandfather, classic stuff.
* Otherland- Different, but a really interesting concept of the internet wrapped up in fantasy and a bit of an LSD trip. Memory, Sorrow and Thorn was good, but not brilliant, tended to go on a bit in places.
* A Game of Thrones- Good, but not brilliant; I think he went too far with the anyone can die concept.
* David Weber- Read most of the Harrington series, very decent, but IMHO drops off towards the end. Also read the one where aliens invade earth, which started well, but went to pot about where Dracula was introduced.

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Old 08-07-2012, 08:18 PM   #2
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Try Stephen R. Donaldson's Gap Cycle.
The first book is very, very short. More of an intro, really, to the meat and potatoes of the SF series.
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:21 PM   #3
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Go for the Drenai series by David Gemmell.

1. Legend (1984)
2. The King Beyond the Gate (1985)
3. Waylander (1986)
4. Quest for Lost Heroes (1990)
5. In the Realm of the Wolf (1992)
6. The First Chronicles of Druss the Legend (1993)
7. The Legend of Deathwalker: Chronicles of Druss the Axeman (1996)
8. Winter Warriors (1997)
9. Hero in the Shadows (2000)
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:31 PM   #4
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Try Stephen R. Donaldson's Gap Cycle.
The first book is very, very short. More of an intro, really, to the meat and potatoes of the SF series.
I've actually read those I think, although that was many, many years ago
Morn Hyland and Angus Thermopolye (sp?) ring a bell or two, although I can't actually remember much of it.
May have to head back in that direction.

Good call on the David Gemmell though, I've actually read the Rigante and Skillgannon series, although not the Drenai. I'd agree those were very, very good books

I probably should have specified not mainstream, or at the least hard to please
It's this ebook reader, can keep so much more stuff about the place now.

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Old 08-07-2012, 09:08 PM   #5
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Morn Hyland and Angus Thermopolye (sp?) ring a bell or two, although I can't actually remember much of it.
That's the one. But don't forget Hashi Lebwohl, Min Donnor and Warden Dios.
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Old 08-07-2012, 09:34 PM   #6
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Epic - Joe Abercrombie's First Law series:

The Blade Itself
Before They Are Hanged
Last Argument of Kings
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Old 08-07-2012, 10:17 PM   #7
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I suggest David Brin's Uplift Universe. I am not fond of The Uplift Trilogy, particularly its ending, but the first three novels are excellent and two won Hugo's.

Another epic author is Steven Brust. The Vlad Taltos series is up to number 13 (of 19), but the the Khaavren Romances are perhaps even better. They are both in the same universe.
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Old 08-07-2012, 10:23 PM   #8
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For hard sci-fi epic, I would say Kim Stanley Robinson's Red/Green/Blue Mars trilogy.

For not quite scifi/fantasy but entertaining and "sciency" I would recommend Neal Stephenson's Baroque Trilogy.
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Old 08-08-2012, 07:42 AM   #9
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For Fantasy with a well built world and magic system I'd recommend Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn series (the original trilogy and after that the standalone novel "The Alloy of Law").
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Really appreciate all these responses, thanks

I will try giving something back *soon*, keep an eye on the writers forum over the next month or two. (I've got most of the first chapter of a SF novel written, if I ever decide it's good enough to go beyond my mother)

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I suggest David Brin's Uplift Universe. I am not fond of The Uplift Trilogy, particularly its ending, but the first three novels are excellent and two won Hugo's.
The first book had an interesting premise. But the second about the dolphins just got boring really fast. Never did finish it. There was no likability to the dolphins.
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For Fantasy with a well built world and magic system I'd recommend Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn series (the original trilogy and after that the standalone novel "The Alloy of Law").
Ditto.

Brandon is a very good writer. If you want to try some of his writing, his novel WarBreaker is available for free on his website: http://www.brandonsanderson.com
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The first book had an interesting premise. But the second about the dolphins just got boring really fast. Never did finish it. There was no likability to the dolphins.
I agree! I enjoyed reading Sundiver and couldn't get halfway through book 2.
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