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Old 09-17-2013, 09:35 PM   #496
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So perhaps 2.91 as the firmware version we are waiting for?Regards, David
The numbers can change quickly, David, so there is no sense worrying about this particular aspect.
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Hi,

Can you explain me why delete bookmarks by menu is ok on SD card but not on main memory when you use FW 2.8.1 ? what's are the differences that make this bug ?
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Do you mean when you open the annotation list from the home screen? If so, it is a known bug with the annotation handling. See for http://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...39#post2494439 a more complete list. That was written for 2.5.1, but they all still exist. The bug I think you are talking about is another side effect of reading the annotations from the file.
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Hi Davidfor,

I'm french with a bad english and I don't understand what do you mean with "annotation list", but what I want to say is : when you start you kobo (with FW 2.8.2), you can directly go to a book bookmarks menu where you can see all your bookmarks ans delelte one (or more) of them... and if you delete one, and restart you kobo, it's again here !

I know that it's a bug that don't exist with SD card, but what I want to know it's the reason why there is a difference between bookmarks on SD cards and on main memory...
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I'm french with a bad english and I don't understand what do you mean with "annotation list", but what I want to say is : when you start you kobo (with FW 2.8.2), you can directly go to a book bookmarks menu where you can see all your bookmarks ans delelte one (or more) of them... and if you delete one, and restart you kobo, it's again here !

I know that it's a bug that don't exist with SD card, but what I want to know it's the reason why there is a difference between bookmarks on SD cards and on main memory...
When using English for the list of bookmarks is titled "Annotations", so I usually refer to it as the "annotations list".

The bug you are seeing is caused by a difference in how bookmarks are handled for epubs on the SD card and the main memory. For both the bookmarks are stored in the database on the device. But, for epubs in the main memory, they are also stored in a file. When the epub is opened, the file is read and the contents replace whatever is in the database. This leads to most of the bookmark related bugs. What you are seeing is one of them. As far as I can tell, the file is only maintained while the epub is opened. Hence, the behaviour you are seeing.
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Thanks Davidfor for the explanations about "annotations" !

For bookmarks I have understood the difference between epub stored in main memory and epub stored in the SD card...

First idea : if we delete the file that stores the bookmarks of epubs, what will happen (because if there is no file for epub in SD cards why should use one with main memory !) ? the informations will be read directly from database or be erased like if we have read a empty file ?

Second idea : when we open an epub, the file is read and all is copied in database... if, just after, we read the informations in database and then rewrite the file, might this be a solution? in this case, we must put a trigger in database if it's ok because the file should be rewrite each time a bookmark is added or deleted in database...

Do you know if a solution will be proposed in next FW ?

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Thanks Davidfor for the explanations about "annotations" !

For bookmarks I have understood the difference between epub stored in main memory and epub stored in the SD card...

First idea : if we delete the file that stores the bookmarks of epubs, what will happen (because if there is no file for epub in SD cards why should use one with main memory !) ? the informations will be read directly from database or be erased like if we have read a empty file ?
Deleting the file before reopening the book prevents the bad things happening. It works basically the same as for epubs on the SD card
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Second idea : when we open an epub, the file is read and all is copied in database... if, just after, we read the informations in database and then rewrite the file, might this be a solution? in this case, we must put a trigger in database if it's ok because the file should be rewrite each time a bookmark is added or deleted in database...
The problem is when the file is read. When the bookmarks are created from it, they don't match the ones created by the user. There is some information that is different. They still point to the same place in the book, but the information that is used to build the list is changed.
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I am pretty sure it won't be fixed.
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Old 10-01-2013, 06:09 AM   #503
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2.8.1b update

I just noticed the 2.8.1 firmware archive has changed. Same URL as the original, but the new file is 85,486,349 bytes vs 85,577,947 bytes for the old one.
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This is the list of files changed:
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JA.conf
hyph_de.dic
hyph_nl.dic
hyph_fr.dic
hyph_pt.dic
hyph_es.dic
hyph_en.dic
hyph_it.dic
libaccessplugin.so
sd
usb
ac
plug
libQtSolutions_IOCompressor-2.3.so.1.0.0
save_config.sh
fickel
libnickel.so.1.0.0
demoloopja.sh
adobehost-launcher.sh
libpdb.so
configure_wpa_enterprise.sh
puz
adobehost
zim
libiwnn.so.1
libnickel.so
revinfo
nickel
libQtSolutions_IOCompressor-2.3.so
demoloopfnac.sh
libwikipedia.so
current_network.sh
hindenburg
add_network.sh
configure_wps_network.sh
libnickel.so.1.0
configure_wpa_network.sh
unrar
libcrossword.so
stockfish
libcb.so
libQtSolutions_IOCompressor-2.3.so.1.0
configure_wpa_open_network.sh
libboggle.so
libscribble.so
libQtSolutions_IOCompressor-2.3.so.1
libiwnn.so.1.0
fb2.xsl.gz
libadobe.so
libsolitaire.so
pickel
demoloop.sh
libiwnn.so.1.0.0
libsudoku.so
ntpd.sh
remove_network.sh
libchess.so
liblzma.so.5.0.4
configure_wep.sh
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This is the list of files changed:
How have you determined these files have changed? Time Stamps changed or actual content of the files changed?
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usr\local\Kobo\adobehost
usr\local\Kobo\hindenburg
usr\local\Kobo\libboggle.so
usr\local\Kobo\libchess.so
usr\local\Kobo\libcrossword.so
usr\local\Kobo\libnickel.so.1.0.0
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The list I got was a lot smaller.

hyph_nl.dic is new. Hopefully that makes the Dutch speakers happy. The other hyphenation dictionaries haven't been changed. None of the scripts appear to have changed. Timestamps for these have changed, but the contents don't seem to have. Most of the libraries and executables and libraries in /usr/local/Kobo have changed.

The updates have a date of 24/09/2013.
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I sideloaded 2.8.1b to my Glo using the usual method. No problems, but so far the only change I can see is to the device information screen which shows 2.8.1 (b2c05cda0e, 20/09/13).
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How have you determined these files have changed? Time Stamps changed or actual content of the files changed?
Only timestamps, no md5sum or other used.
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So in reality, many of those files will not have changed; what you are seeing is an artifact of the build process.
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