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Old 07-18-2012, 04:14 PM   #1
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Merged developer.keystore deleted after internet connection

As in the title, every time I connect to the Internet my developer.keystore file is removed.
What I'm wondering is how I can prevent it?
I've tried moving /etc/uks folder, what was supposed to disable automatic updates, no success.
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:42 PM   #2
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I read about this in another thread... apologies I can lay my hands on it now but it's not the first time I heard it -I thought I would at least bring that to your attention

Worth having a dig around for similar threads perhaps; if you have a moment.
I will do the same see if I can dredge it

EDIT: NOPE Can't lay my hands on it.

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Is your kindle registered? Try chmodding the keystore to read only
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:51 PM   #4
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I read about this in another thread... apologies I can lay my hands on it now but it's not the first time I heard it -I thought I would at least bring that to your attention

Worth having a dig around for similar threads perhaps; if you have a moment.
I will do the same see if I can dredge it

EDIT: NOPE Can't lay my hands on it.
I remember seeing this reported here before too. Searching... I just found it here: http://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho....php?p=2138938

It seems that the previous report of this problem from 12 days ago was by somebody with the same member name as the OP here. Self-corroboration can lead to positive feedback loops, and a false sense of (hidden) supporting evidence.

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Ah bummer. Yeah what GM said. nice find by the way GM


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Now it seems to that every time i connect to the interet (through wifi, I've got no 3G) the developer.keystore is deleted.
Probably removing autoupdating feature would help, as it's clearly the fault.
I am intrigued though - you say you have no 3g? only wifi?

:Confuzzled: even unregged I had 3g. perhaps that is a uk thing?

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Old 07-18-2012, 10:59 PM   #6
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And somebody made a "guess" back on June 24 that "maybe" this "might" happen with the new firmware (like they do by deleting dropbear files needed for SSH):
http://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho....php?p=2126450
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Old 07-18-2012, 11:51 PM   #7
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It would be possible to have a cron job or a background script that periodically checks for a missing developer keystore and restores a backup copy whenever it goes missing. It could also restore missing dropbear SSH files too.
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Old 07-19-2012, 06:38 AM   #8
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Is your kindle registered? Try chmodding the keystore to read only
My Kindle 3 wifi is unregistered, and I have no 3G connectivity.
I tried chmodding and chowning without any luck.

I searched for a while but decided to start a topic, because I was unable to solve it.

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When developer.keystore gets deleted I need to restart after I place it back, so a simple cronjob would be little help.

Btw. I'm from Poland, as it may be a clue (for understanding my not always proper language).

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Old 07-19-2012, 09:07 AM   #9
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My Kindle 3 wifi is unregistered, and I have no 3G connectivity.
I tried chmodding and chowning without any luck.

I searched for a while but decided to start a topic, because I was unable to solve it.

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When developer.keystore gets deleted I need to restart after I place it back, so a simple cronjob would be little help.

Btw. I'm from Poland, as it may be a clue (for understanding my not always proper language).
Why do you need to restart? Restoring the developer keystore should not require restarting. Perhaps the REAL problem is something else, and the missing developer keystore is just a side-effect of the other problem.

There appear to be no other reports than your own describing a problem like this.

You could try restoring original unhacked firmware and zeroing mmcblk0p3, using "simple debricking" instructions. That should get your kindle back to "factory fresh" (which is known to NOT have this problem).

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Old 07-19-2012, 09:27 AM   #10
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You could try restoring original unhacked firmware and zeroing mmsblk0p3, using "simple debricking" instructions. That should get your kindle back to "factory fresh" (which is known to NOT have this problem).
Oh man, is my crystal ball working great this morning - -
Your left index finger was busy doing something else (I can guess at what) when you typed mmsblk0p3 rather than mmcblk0p3.
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Oh man, is my crystal ball working great this morning - -
Your left index finger was busy doing something else (I can guess at what) when you typed mmsblk0p3 rather than mmcblk0p3.
My fingers OFTEN disobey my commands while typing these days. The last half year has been brutal. Most of my life I was a very fast and accurate typist. Getting old sucks. Sadly, MOST of my typing errors get through spell checkers just fine because my fingers decide to type a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT (correctly spelled) word than I told them too. I have noticed that they often refuse to type the letter "r" (choosing to just leave if off the end of a word more often than not). One of their favorite pranks is to change the word "word" to "work" or the word "than" to "that" (even in this sentence, where I had to go back and fix it, twice). And sadly, proofreading does not work until much later. My fingers seem to have a conspiracy with my eyes, making me see the "correct" words even when they are NOT correct. I have to go back and proofread again later (when my fingers are not paying attention). My body and mind do not get along with each other as well as they once did. I think that is a sign of getting old.

I fixed it in my previous post. Thanks for spotting it for me, or I may not have seen it for hours (if lucky) or days, or perhaps even weeks. I am often shocked at the typing errors in even my very old posts (which I correct when I find them).

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My fingers OFTEN disobey my commands while typing these days. The last half year has been brutal. Most of my life I was a very fast and accurate typist. Getting old sucks. Sadly, MOST of my typing errors get through spell checkers just fine because my fingers decide to type a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT (correctly spelled) word than I told them too. I have noticed that they often refuse to type the letter "r" (choosing to just leave if off the end of a word more often than not). One of their favorite pranks is to change the word "word" to "work" or the word "than" to "that" (even in this sentence, where I had to go back and fix it, twice). And sadly, proofreading does not work until much later. My fingers seem to have a conspiracy with my eyes, making me see the "correct" words even when they are NOT correct. I have to go back and proofread again later (when my fingers are not paying attention). My body and mind do not get along with each other as well as they once did. I think that is a sign of getting old.
Not that complicated, I thought that the 'c' finger was busy making a gesture at the forum post.
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:43 AM   #13
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You could try restoring original unhacked firmware and zeroing mmcblk0p3, using "simple debricking" instructions. That should get your kindle back to "factory fresh" (which is known to NOT have this problem).
Thank you for your advice, but I am not planning on taking such a serious step just now.

The problem in fact seems to go a little deeper than simple file removal; probably when I connect some 'function' is also called to update the keystore.
It could be helpful in developing a script to automatically restore it, the question is weather it would be repeatedly removed by the updater or not

However, as I'm a little lazy I'd prefer to remove automatic updates for good.

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Ah, stupid me.
I forgot to mention an important thing, it's not just that the file is removed, there also appears a note from Amazon with something about my test kindle installation.
When I'll have time and mood for seriously digging into it (and maybe GM's video) I'll surely post my progress.

Thanks for yours attention, gentleman.
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there also appears a note from Amazon with something about my test kindle installation.
This also happened to me only once when I deregistered and registered again. It seems that amazon clears the keystores on every deregistration.

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