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Old 07-17-2012, 09:38 PM   #1
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Do the number of pages in an ebook differ from the number of pages in a physical book

I know that for an ebook there are 2-3 ebook pages per page number. But are the total number of pages different in an ebook than a physical book? My ebook copy of Twilight says that there are 254 pages, but I know the physical book has 498 pages.... If you have an ebook copy of really any book that you legally purchased could you list the number of pages it says it has?
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I know that for an ebook there are 2-3 ebook pages per page number. But are the total number of pages different in an ebook than a physical book? My ebook copy of Twilight says that there are 254 pages, but I know the physical book has 498 pages.... If you have an ebook copy of really any book that you legally purchased could you list the number of pages it says it has?
I'm a little confused by that last but yes, ebooks and print books have different numbers. The ebook is usually figured by however many page turns it will take you to get through the book in digital format. The print book has different page numbers because of font type and size.

My book Heroes & Villains is 379 pages on Kindle estimate, while the print is 298; really 135,000 words. It's because the Kindle version is Arial size 12, while the print is Georgia size 11. I tried to make the least amount of print pages possible to keep consumer costs down... while I think for Twilight, because it's YA and publisher funded, they use probably a size 12-14 font with 1/5 a line of space between every line, though I don't know the word count.

Hope that helps
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The ebook is usually figured by however many page turns it will take you to get through the book in digital format. The print book has different page numbers because of font type and size.
I wish my Nook STR worked like that Instead, each page is an arbitrary number of characters, so you could 'turn' a lot of 'pages' but the device would still say you are on the same one :/
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Old 07-17-2012, 10:17 PM   #4
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I'm a little confused by that last but yes, ebooks and print books have different numbers. The ebook is usually figured by however many page turns it will take you to get through the book in digital format. The print book has different page numbers because of font type and size.
http://blog.threepress.org/2009/11/2...-ncx-pagelist/ explains how pages are determined, at least in the Adobe system which most ereaders and ereading software uses.

Short version: an epub will either use a complicated system called a "page map" or, when the page map doesn't exist, declare a new page every 1024 characters.

Sadly, few ereaders and software will do a page count based on page turns (which would be determined by your current font settings and the formatting inside the epub itself), and will instead just display the current Adobe page you're on, even if it takes 3-4 page turns to get through the "page".
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Old 07-17-2012, 10:31 PM   #5
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Yes.

And print books, if they have different versions/editions, will also have different page numbers from each other.

It will also vary between devices/apps. Reading an eBook (using iBooks) on my iPod Touch will give me a different page count from reading the eBook on my iPad.
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Old 07-17-2012, 10:44 PM   #6
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With ebooks the number of page turns will vary by the size of the text you choose to use. The text of the book will be the same as the paper version regardless if that is what you were asking about.
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Old 07-17-2012, 11:14 PM   #7
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It may, but not by much.
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Old 07-17-2012, 11:25 PM   #8
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If you look up a specific book on Goodreads and look at other edition, you will see as much as a 30% difference in the pages in mass market paperbacks.
Rex Stout's Fer-de-Lance is one example. http://www.goodreads.com/work/editio...4-fer-de-lance

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Old 07-18-2012, 02:14 AM   #9
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There is some good info on page numbering in the MR WiKi: http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Page_numbers
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Amazon has a "sync page" system on some eBooks. The page that you are reading correlates with the page on the print version. It only appears on a few of the books that I have downloaded, and only on the more expensive books. I think that it only works with touch as I don't see it on my DX.

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Old 07-18-2012, 01:26 PM   #11
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Yes.

And print books, if they have different versions/editions, will also have different page numbers from each other.
Exactly. When the same book/edition has a different number of pages in the hardcover, paperback, trade and Scholastic printings, I don't know why you wouldn't expect the ebook to have a different page count, as well.
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Amazon has a "sync page" system on some eBooks. The page that you are reading correlates with the page on the print version. It only appears on a few of the books that I have downloaded, and only on the more expensive books. I think that it only works with touch as I don't see it on my DX.
The last update for the DX was 2.5.8, the same as the K2. The K3/KK received the 3.1 firmware for real page numbers in February of last year. I didn't realize my K3 had updated until I stumbled onto the page numbering by accident.
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The last update for the DX was 2.5.8, the same as the K2. The K3/KK received the 3.1 firmware for real page numbers in February of last year. I didn't realize my K3 had updated until I stumbled onto the page numbering by accident.
Thanks. I'll have to look at my firmware - I have not updated it in all the time I have had it. I tend to use the Touch more nowadays - it is simpler to carry - though I prefer the DX for relaxed reading.
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