Dropdowns in metadata fields

ElMiko · 07-16-2012, 08:41 AM

In the list thats drops down when you start typing in a metadata field, it used to be that the options cycled. That is to say, if you pressed the up arrow from the first position, you'd jump to the end; if you pressed the down arrow from the last position, you'd jump to the beginning. It appears this functionality is no longer available in 8.6. Is this on purpose? Please say no.

theducks · 07-16-2012, 09:15 AM

8.6 is a really old version... did you happen to mean "8.60"
(Calibre revisions are always TEXT, not floating point numbers)

In many cases, the building blocks (from other OSS projects) change and the behavior in Calibre changes (not always what we want).

OddCosine · 07-16-2012, 10:33 AM

What a coincidence, I came here to ask about those same controls. In the latest version, the controls behave in a very non-Windows-standard way for ComboBoxes, and it's driving me up the wall. For example, the home and end keys act on the list rather than the text field, and you can't tab out of them when the list is dropped down.

I use the system default theme, and I'm really hoping that the new calibre-style control was included in the default theme by mistake. If it's intentional, can we please have an option for standard controls?

kovidgoyal · 07-16-2012, 10:36 AM

If you want cycling use the tab key for forwards and shift+tab for backwards. I can restore cycling with the arrow keys as well, though atleast for me, Tab is a lot more natural.

kiwidude · 07-16-2012, 10:49 AM

@OddCosine - just to add it is not "theme" related. As theducks hinted at earlier Kovid completely replaced the combobox implementation with a new one in 0.8.60. This was I believe an attempt to bypass the crashing issues which a few users had reported here on the forums. As to what will or won't be changed further about it's behaviour I leave that up to Kovid

.

Other than things I reported which Kovid has fixed, my biggest behaviour difference that I have noticed is trying to rename say an author name which has incorrect casing. You have to keep hitting escape to cancel the dropdown portion to stop it "fixing" your correction.

kovidgoyal · 07-16-2012, 10:50 AM

@OddCosine: The Home and End keys will be back to normal in the next release (they were an oversight), but the behavior of the Tab key is not going to change.

OddCosine · 07-17-2012, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

@OddCosine: The Home and End keys will be back to normal in the next release (they were an oversight), but the behavior of the Tab key is not going to change.

Thanks in advance for the home & end key fix.

ElMiko · 07-17-2012, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

If you want cycling use the tab key for forwards and shift+tab for backwards. I can restore cycling with the arrow keys as well, though atleast for me, Tab is a lot more natural.

@ALL - Eep! Sorry for the confusion I did mean 0.8.60.

@Kovid - Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but hitting tab (or shift+tab) simply jumps the selected field one over the the right (or left). What I'm talking about is vertical navigation within a metadata field dropdown. Let me give an example.

Let's say I'm adding a book to the library by imaginary author Zora Williamson (Williamson, Zora). If I type "Will" in the Author(s) field, a dropdown menu appears with all the authors whose names start with "Will". At the end of that list is "Williamson, Zora". In the past, after typing "Will", I could hit the "Up" arrow and the list would cycle to the last entry. Now, there are only two ways to get to the bottom: hitting end, or scrolling all the way down. Since the end button requires my lifting my hand off the keyboard and putting it down again over by the numberpad, that's not a super convenient option. If, however, the behavior I'm looking to re-instate causes stability issues, I obviously completely understand.

kovidgoyal · 07-17-2012, 04:46 AM

@Elmiko: The cycling with arrow keys will be restored in the next release.

ElMiko · 07-17-2012, 05:36 AM

As always, thank you Kovid.

piper28 · 07-17-2012, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

@OddCosine: The Home and End keys will be back to normal in the next release (they were an oversight), but the behavior of the Tab key is not going to change.

I for one will be very happy with that

. I just updated from a much older version, and have to admit, that was driving me nuts. Other than that, I've been pretty happy with the new look though.

07-16-2012, 08:41 AM	#1
ElMiko Addict Posts: 286 Karma: 56788 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Kindle	Dropdowns in metadata fields In the list thats drops down when you start typing in a metadata field, it used to be that the options cycled. That is to say, if you pressed the up arrow from the first position, you'd jump to the end; if you pressed the down arrow from the last position, you'd jump to the beginning. It appears this functionality is no longer available in 8.6. Is this on purpose? Please say no. __________________ When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if you've paid your dues, well, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail."

07-16-2012, 09:15 AM	#2
theducks Staff to 4 Cats Posts: 10,959 Karma: 2574555 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The (original) Silicon Valley, USA Device: Galaxy Tab 2,Black Astak PEz, K4NT(now Wifes)	8.6 is a really old version... did you happen to mean "8.60" (Calibre revisions are always TEXT, not floating point numbers) In many cases, the building blocks (from other OSS projects) change and the behavior in Calibre changes (not always what we want). __________________ Using: Ubuntu(32 bit):Oneric,Precise and XPpro SP3, W7HP(64)- - Libre Office w/Writer2EPUB

07-16-2012, 10:36 AM	#4
kovidgoyal Creator of calibre Posts: 22,662 Karma: 3473290 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	If you want cycling use the tab key for forwards and shift+tab for backwards. I can restore cycling with the arrow keys as well, though atleast for me, Tab is a lot more natural. __________________ Get calibre Notice to all: I can not provide assistance with DRM removal, for legal reasons, so please do not contact me about it. Last edited by kovidgoyal; 07-16-2012 at 10:43 AM.

07-16-2012, 10:49 AM	#5
kiwidude calibre/Sigil Developer Posts: 4,098 Karma: 1211234 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: London, UK Device: Kindle 3 3G, iPad 2, iPad 3	@OddCosine - just to add it is not "theme" related. As theducks hinted at earlier Kovid completely replaced the combobox implementation with a new one in 0.8.60. This was I believe an attempt to bypass the crashing issues which a few users had reported here on the forums. As to what will or won't be changed further about it's behaviour I leave that up to Kovid . Other than things I reported which Kovid has fixed, my biggest behaviour difference that I have noticed is trying to rename say an author name which has incorrect casing. You have to keep hitting escape to cancel the dropdown portion to stop it "fixing" your correction. __________________ Like my calibre plugins or Sigil work? Say thanks with PayPal

07-16-2012, 10:50 AM	#6
kovidgoyal Creator of calibre Posts: 22,662 Karma: 3473290 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	@OddCosine: The Home and End keys will be back to normal in the next release (they were an oversight), but the behavior of the Tab key is not going to change. __________________ Get calibre Notice to all: I can not provide assistance with DRM removal, for legal reasons, so please do not contact me about it.

07-16-2012, 10:33 AM	#3
OddCosine Connoisseur Posts: 69 Karma: 1149086 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Kindle	What a coincidence, I came here to ask about those same controls. In the latest version, the controls behave in a very non-Windows-standard way for ComboBoxes, and it's driving me up the wall. For example, the home and end keys act on the list rather than the text field, and you can't tab out of them when the list is dropped down. I use the system default theme, and I'm really hoping that the new calibre-style control was included in the default theme by mistake. If it's intentional, can we please have an option for standard controls?

07-17-2012, 04:46 AM	#9
kovidgoyal Creator of calibre Posts: 22,662 Karma: 3473290 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	@Elmiko: The cycling with arrow keys will be restored in the next release. __________________ Get calibre Notice to all: I can not provide assistance with DRM removal, for legal reasons, so please do not contact me about it.

07-17-2012, 05:36 AM	#10
ElMiko Addict Posts: 286 Karma: 56788 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Kindle	As always, thank you Kovid. __________________ When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if you've paid your dues, well, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail."

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