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Old 12-14-2012, 04:50 AM   #196
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wmctrl -r "xterm" -b toggle fullscreen

(or is it called "kterm"?) whatever it is called use that.

try above, below, etc...

this isn't a total solution but might at least get you started.

EDIT: ah the link http://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=194270

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-r <WIN> -e <MVARG> Resize and move the window around the desktop.
The format of the <MVARG> argument is described below.
-r <WIN> -b <STARG> Change the state of the window. Using this option it's
possible for example to make the window maximized,
minimized or fullscreen. The format of the <STARG>
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<STARG> Specifies a change to the state of the window
by the means of _NET_WM_STATE request.
This option allows two properties to be changed
simultaneously, specifically to allow both
horizontal and vertical maximization to be
altered together.

The format of the argument is:

(remove|add|toggle),<PROP1>[,<PROP2>]

The EWMH specification defines the
following properties:

modal, sticky, maximized_vert, maximized_horz,
shaded, skip_taskbar, skip_pager, hidden,
fullscreen, above, below
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Thanks, I poked around a bit, and here's what I found: I can launch matchbox-keyboard alone and it's visible on the home screen. But here's the problem: when I run xterm.sh, matchbox-keyboard is obscured by xterm window, which is fullscreen
Well, xterm window should be fullscreen. And matchbox keyboard should be placed on top of it. I don't know why it is placed under xterm.
What does whole windows stack look like?
Code:
xwininfo -root -children
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Try also with previous version of xterm, before I added rotation support. I remember it was causing some problems, like keyboard hiding under terminal window.
It is here.
Check with both the old matchbox-keyboard binary and the new one I posted above.
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Okay, here we go:

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wmctrl -r "xterm" -b toggle fullscreen
It kinda worked. Both terminal and keyboard are visible, but terminal doesn't get any input.

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Try also with previous version of xterm, before I added rotation support. I remember it was causing some problems, like keyboard hiding under terminal window.
It is here.
Check with both the old matchbox-keyboard binary and the new one I posted above.
I tried it (with both new and old matchbox-keyboard) and it didn't make any difference.

Posting the whole window stack (using current version of xterm, not 0.6):
Code:
[root@kindle bin]# xwininfo -root -children

xwininfo: Window id: 0x51 (the root window) (has no name)

  Root window id: 0x51 (the root window) (has no name)
  Parent window id: 0x0 (none)
     26 children:
     0x180000d "L:A_N:application_ID:XTerm_PC:N_O:URL": ("kterm" "XTerm")  758x1024+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsViewable
     0x1600257 "L:D_N:application_ID:matchbox-keyboard": ()  758x341+0+683  +0+683  MapState=IsViewable
     0x120001a "L:A_N:application_ID:com.lab126.booklet.home_M:false_PC:TS_RC:true_O:U": ()  758x899+0+125  +0+125  MapState=IsViewable
     0xe00003 "L:A_N:application_ID:blankBackground_WS:true": ("pillowd" "Pillowd")  758x1024+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsViewable
     0xe0005b "L:C_N:titleBar_ID:system": ("pillowd" "Pillowd")  758x37+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsViewable
     0xe00045 "L:C_N:searchBar_ID:system_SBTH:88_SBPH:88_TAP:search-bar_CMS~E:ss,cr": ("pillowd" "Pillowd")  758x88+0+37  +0+37  MapState=IsViewable
     0x1000003 "L:KB_N:keyboard_DMINSETRIGHT:5_DM:KB_DMINSETLEFT:5_KBS:H_DMINSETTOP:54_LanH:352_PorH:352_DMINSETBOTTOM:5": ("kb" "Kb")  758x352+0+672  +0+672  MapState=IsViewable
     0x120037f "L:D_N:non-centered_ID:com.lab126.booklet.home_M:dismissible_RD:false_FH:F_CD:true_TAC:search-bar_TAB:menu_RC:false_HIDE:background_BS:true": ()  393x538+355+122  +355+122  MapState=IsViewable
     0xe00042 "L:D_N:lightDialog_ID:system_PILLOW:light-dialog_M:dismissible_CD:true_TAC:search-bar_TAB:light_HIDE:background": ("pillowd" "Pillowd")  473x632+250+122  +250+122  MapState=IsViewable
     0xe0003f "L:D_N:pillowAlert_ID:system_PILLOW:simple-alert_M:true_BW:4_HIDE:background": ("pillowd" "Pillowd")  569x311+90+350  +90+350  MapState=IsViewable
     0x140000d "xterm": ("xterm" "XTerm")  484x316+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsViewable
     0xc0003c "webreader": ("webreader" "Webreader")  1024x1024+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsViewable
     0xc00021 "webreader": ("webreader" "Webreader")  200x200+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsViewable
     0xe00048 "L:D_N:searchResults_ID:system_PILLOW:search-results_RC:custom_RCTL:0_RCTR:0_RCBL:16_RCBR:16_BW:2_FH:S_FS:S_CD:true_HIDE:background": ("pillowd" "Pillowd")  200x493+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsViewable
     0xe00033 "L:D_N:systemMenu_ID:system_PILLOW:system-menu_BW:0_M:dismissible_CD:true_HIDE:background_TAC:search-bar_TAB:menu": ("pillowd" "Pillowd")  323x126+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsViewable
     0x40001c "L:SS_N:screenSaver_FH:F_ID:blanket-screensaver_FS:F_O:U": ()  758x1024+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsUnMapped
     0x120007b "L:A_N:application_ID:com.lab126.booklet.reader_M:false_PC:N_RC:true_O:URL_DM:N_S:-2": ()  758x1024+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsUnMapped
     0x12000a6 "L:A_N:application_ID:com.lab126.booklet.settings_M:false_PC:TS_RC:true_O:U": ()  758x899+0+125  +0+125  MapState=IsUnMapped
     0xc00004 "webreader": ("webreader" "Webreader")  200x200+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsUnMapped
     0xc00001 "webreader": ("webreader" "Webreader")  10x10+10+10  +10+10  MapState=IsUnMapped
     0xe00070 "pillowd": ()  10x10+-100+-100  +-100+-100  MapState=IsUnMapped
     0xe00016 "pillowd": ("pillowd" "Pillowd")  200x200+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsUnMapped
     0x1000001 "kb": ("kb" "Kb")  10x10+10+10  +10+10  MapState=IsUnMapped
     0xe00001 "pillowd": ("pillowd" "Pillowd")  10x10+10+10  +10+10  MapState=IsUnMapped
     0x600001 (has no name): ()  1x1+-1+-1  +-1+-1  MapState=IsUnMapped
     0x600000 (has no name): ()  1x1+-1+-1  +-1+-1  MapState=IsUnMapped
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would be more help as...

xwininfo -tree -root -children

or even just

xwininfo -tree -root

IIRC there was some issue with focus that baf had handled via the inbuilt layer logic.
I had to fiddle around initially to get the input I expected when not using bafs methods.

Good luck

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would be more help as...

xwininfo -tree -root -children

or even just

xwininfo -tree -root

IIRC there was some issue with focus that baf had handled via the inbuilt layer logic.
I had to fiddle around initially to get the input I expected when not using bafs methods.

Good luck
Frankly I don't have any slightest idea about X layers. Well, here's xwininfo output:
Code:
[root@kindle bin]# xwininfo -root -tree

xwininfo: Window id: 0x51 (the root window) (has no name)

  Root window id: 0x51 (the root window) (has no name)
  Parent window id: 0x0 (none)
     26 children:
     0x180000d "L:A_N:application_ID:XTerm_PC:N_O:URL": ("kterm" "XTerm")  758x1024+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsViewable
        1 child:
        0x1800011 (has no name): ()  758x1024+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsViewable
     0x1600257 "L:D_N:application_ID:matchbox-keyboard": ()  758x341+0+683  +0+683  MapState=IsViewable
     0x120001a "L:A_N:application_ID:com.lab126.booklet.home_M:false_PC:TS_RC:true_O:U": ()  758x899+0+125  +0+125  MapState=IsViewable
     0xe00003 "L:A_N:application_ID:blankBackground_WS:true": ("pillowd" "Pillowd")  758x1024+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsViewable
        1 child:
        0xe00004 (has no name): ()  1x1+-1+-1  +-1+-1  MapState=IsViewable
     0xe0005b "L:C_N:titleBar_ID:system": ("pillowd" "Pillowd")  758x37+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsViewable
        1 child:
        0xe0005c (has no name): ()  1x1+-1+-1  +-1+-1  MapState=IsViewable
     0xe00045 "L:C_N:searchBar_ID:system_SBTH:88_SBPH:88_TAP:search-bar_CMS~E:ss,cr": ("pillowd" "Pillowd")  758x88+0+37  +0+37  MapState=IsViewable
        1 child:
        0xe00046 (has no name): ()  1x1+-1+-1  +-1+36  MapState=IsViewable
     0x1000003 "L:KB_N:keyboard_DMINSETRIGHT:5_DM:KB_DMINSETLEFT:5_KBS:H_DMINSETTOP:54_LanH:352_PorH:352_DMINSETBOTTOM:5": ("kb" "Kb")  758x352+0+672  +0+672  MapState=IsViewable
        1 child:
        0x1000004 (has no name): ()  1x1+-1+-1  +-1+671  MapState=IsViewable
     0x120037f "L:D_N:non-centered_ID:com.lab126.booklet.home_M:dismissible_RD:false_FH:F_CD:true_TAC:search-bar_TAB:menu_RC:false_HIDE:background_BS:true": ()  393x538+355+122  +355+122  MapState=IsViewable
     0xe00042 "L:D_N:lightDialog_ID:system_PILLOW:light-dialog_M:dismissible_CD:true_TAC:search-bar_TAB:light_HIDE:background": ("pillowd" "Pillowd")  473x632+250+122  +250+122  MapState=IsViewable
        1 child:
        0xe00043 (has no name): ()  1x1+-1+-1  +249+121  MapState=IsViewable
     0xe0003f "L:D_N:pillowAlert_ID:system_PILLOW:simple-alert_M:true_BW:4_HIDE:background": ("pillowd" "Pillowd")  569x311+90+350  +90+350  MapState=IsViewable
        1 child:
        0xe00040 (has no name): ()  1x1+-1+-1  +93+353  MapState=IsViewable
     0x140000d "xterm": ("xterm" "XTerm")  484x316+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsViewable
        1 child:
        0x1400012 (has no name): ()  484x316+0+0  +1+1  MapState=IsViewable
     0xc0003c "webreader": ("webreader" "Webreader")  1024x1024+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsViewable
        1 child:
        0xc0003d (has no name): ()  1x1+-1+-1  +-1+-1  MapState=IsViewable
     0xc00021 "webreader": ("webreader" "Webreader")  200x200+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsViewable
        1 child:
        0xc00022 (has no name): ()  1x1+-1+-1  +-1+-1  MapState=IsViewable
     0xe00048 "L:D_N:searchResults_ID:system_PILLOW:search-results_RC:custom_RCTL:0_RCTR:0_RCBL:16_RCBR:16_BW:2_FH:S_FS:S_CD:true_HIDE:background": ("pillowd" "Pillowd")  200x493+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsViewable
        1 child:
        0xe00049 (has no name): ()  1x1+-1+-1  +1+1  MapState=IsViewable
     0xe00033 "L:D_N:systemMenu_ID:system_PILLOW:system-menu_BW:0_M:dismissible_CD:true_HIDE:background_TAC:search-bar_TAB:menu": ("pillowd" "Pillowd")  323x126+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsViewable
        1 child:
        0xe00034 (has no name): ()  1x1+-1+-1  +-1+-1  MapState=IsViewable
     0x40001c "L:SS_N:screenSaver_FH:F_ID:blanket-screensaver_FS:F_O:U": ()  758x1024+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsUnMapped
     0x120007b "L:A_N:application_ID:com.lab126.booklet.reader_M:false_PC:N_RC:true_O:URL_DM:N_S:-2": ()  758x1024+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsUnMapped
     0x12000a6 "L:A_N:application_ID:com.lab126.booklet.settings_M:false_PC:TS_RC:true_O:U": ()  758x899+0+125  +0+125  MapState=IsUnMapped
     0xc00004 "webreader": ("webreader" "Webreader")  200x200+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsUnMapped
        1 child:
        0xc00005 (has no name): ()  1x1+-1+-1  +-1+-1  MapState=IsUnviewable
     0xc00001 "webreader": ("webreader" "Webreader")  10x10+10+10  +10+10  MapState=IsUnMapped
        1 child:
        0xc00002 (has no name): ()  1x1+-1+-1  +9+9  MapState=IsUnviewable
     0xe00070 "pillowd": ()  10x10+-100+-100  +-100+-100  MapState=IsUnMapped
     0xe00016 "pillowd": ("pillowd" "Pillowd")  200x200+0+0  +0+0  MapState=IsUnMapped
        1 child:
        0xe00017 (has no name): ()  1x1+-1+-1  +-1+-1  MapState=IsUnviewable
     0x1000001 "kb": ("kb" "Kb")  10x10+10+10  +10+10  MapState=IsUnMapped
        1 child:
        0x1000002 (has no name): ()  1x1+-1+-1  +9+9  MapState=IsUnviewable
     0xe00001 "pillowd": ("pillowd" "Pillowd")  10x10+10+10  +10+10  MapState=IsUnMapped
        1 child:
        0xe00002 (has no name): ()  1x1+-1+-1  +9+9  MapState=IsUnviewable
     0x600001 (has no name): ()  1x1+-1+-1  +-1+-1  MapState=IsUnMapped
     0x600000 (has no name): ()  1x1+-1+-1  +-1+-1  MapState=IsUnMapped
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Okay, here we go:
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wmctrl -r "xterm" -b toggle fullscreen
It kinda worked. Both terminal and keyboard are visible, but terminal doesn't get any input.
I am surprised. Why does setting xterm to fullscreen make keyboard visible?
And why doesn't xterm grab all input?

I see a lot of new arguments in window title scheme. I will have to study it.
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I set what now?

You know. its funny but I just managed to do exactly the same thing on the touch.

for some reason a window named
xwininfo: Window id: 0x1400002 "L:A_N:application_ID:xgnuboy_PC:N"
Does not display topmost without forcing via wmctrl.

and it also does not receive input from the keyboard.
odd. perhaps there is some element that is not being set in code correctly.

I currently have this:

Code:
void vid_settitle(char *title)
{
//	XStoreName(x_display, x_win, title);
	XStoreName(x_display, x_win, "L:A_N:application_ID:xgnuboy_PC:N");
	XSetIconName(x_display, x_win, "L:A_N:application_ID:xgnuboy_PC:N");
}
which looks okay to me.

any thoughts : )

EDIT: I shoved it in a tidy

Code:
snprintf(buf, sizeof buf, "%s%s", "L:D_N:application_ID:", rom.name);
Am i setting the property correctly?

http://h30097.www3.hp.com/docs/base_...UP/XWINSYS.PDF Section 9_9
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9.1.4 Setting and Reading the WM_NAME Property
Xlib provides convenience functions that you can use to set and read the WM_NAME
property for a given window.
To set a window’s WM_NAME property with the supplied convenience function, use
XSetWMName.
Code:
void XSetWMName(display, w, text_prop)
Display *display;
Window w;
XTextProperty *text_prop;
display Specifies the connection to the X server.
w Specifies the window.
text_prop Specifies the XTextProperty structure to be used.

The XSetWMName convenience function performs a XSetTextProperty on the
WM_NAME property (see section 9.1.3).

To read a window’s WM_NAME property with the supplied convenience function, use
XGetWMName.

Code:
Status XGetWMName(display, w, text_prop_return)
Display *display;
Window w;
XTextProperty *text_prop_return;
display Specifies the connection to the X server.
w Specifies the window.
text_prop_return Returns the XTextProperty structure.

The XGetWMName convenience function performs an XGetTextProperty on the
WM_NAME property (see section 9.1.3).

The following two functions have been superseded by XSetWMName and XGetWMName, respectively. You can use these additional convenience functions for window names that are encoded as STRING properties.
To assign a name to a window, use XStoreName.

Code:
XStoreName(display, w, window_name)
Display *display;
Window w;
char *window_name;
display Specifies the connection to the X server.
w Specifies the window.
window_name Specifies the window name, which should be a null-terminated string.

The XStoreName function assigns the name passed to window_name to the specified window. A window manager can display the window name in some prominent place, such as the title bar, to allow users to identify windows easily. Some window managers may display a window’s name in the window’s icon, although they are encouraged to use the window’s icon name if one is provided by the application.

XStoreName can generate BadAlloc and BadWindow errors...
Snip.


Looks right to me. Erm. Any clues?

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Looks right to me. Erm. Any clues?
Your function is ok, but it is important WHEN you call it. You should call it while creating new window. If you call it too late, after window has been put to a proper layer by wm, nothing will happen. Unless you notify wm of the change of title, with wmctrl for example.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:56 AM   #205
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okay. I will see about shifting it from the loader phase then maybe.

That said I have noticed that many of the sound issues appear to go away when running via Xephyr... perhaps I will just stick to that road. Thanks mate!

At least I didn't screw up the code.
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I've tried to compile xterm but it got:
Code:
[SB2 simple arm] test@test-test xterm-279 $ make
gcc -I. -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -D_GNU_SOURCE  -DNARROWPROTO=1 -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DOSMAJORVERSION=3 -DOSMINORVERSION=2  -g -O2  -c ./button.c
In file included from ./button.c:62:0:
./xterm.h:66:21: fatal error: X11/Xos.h: No such file or directory
compilation terminated.
make: *** [button.o] Error 1
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and do you have that file?

i.e is it the referencing or do you just not have it...
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I don't have it. I use KT /{lib,etc,usr} as root filesystem then sb2 ./configure, but it seems KT missing library to compile xterm. But KT still can run Xterm
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I don't have it. I use KT /{lib,etc,usr} as root filesystem then sb2 ./configure, but it seems KT missing library to compile xterm. But KT still can run Xterm
Most likely correct.

Ah, the beauty of the posix dynamic library naming.
Hint: You might look that up - a little new knowledge wouldn't hurt.

There are two naming systems, one for the build-time library name(s) and one for the run-time library name.
They often end up at the same library binary - it is the naming systems that differ for those two different purposes.

The build-time name(s) is used by the linker and the names include version information in the name string itself.
This name chain starts with the base name and leads to the most specific version of the library present. (at least it does when it is present.)

The run-time name is used by the loader and the version information is in the symbol table, per symbol.

Embedded Operating Systems are supposed to be small and light.
Embedded Linux is.
Kindles run embedded Linux.
Small, run-time, OS installations are not intended to be program creation environments.

Are you really surprised that the Kindles do not ship with the build-time name chains?

Knowledge is power, back up and create a complete build environment based on the library files that do ship with the Kindles.
Only then try to build something.
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right. I use the buildroot pkg config stuff for my libs (the ones I cant/dont build myself) its referenced in the soundkloud thread in the last few posts how I do it.

thats for gtk but I imagine the principle is broadly similar. use the right headers / libs for the right tool chains. I have noted how I do mine. (whether that is right? I dont know - it works) good luck.
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