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Old 05-27-2012, 05:22 AM   #16
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It wouldn't work since the cover tag is automatically applied only when there is exactly 1 image in the file.

But this won't be a problem anymore in the next release.
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You mean--if we're on the same page here (yuk...I can never resist bad puns) that even if he has an empty file/chapter in front of the one containing the image, that the one containing the image will be semantically marked cover, regardless?

Then I defer to Ducky's suggestion-add a transparent image, or add something--a colophon, whatever--to the "not-cover" page, and force the issue that way.

I did not realize, all this way down the road, that you lads had added this, um..."functionality." I confess--I don't much like it. Really, if someone's too dumb to mark their cover, isn't that their problem? Are we starting to bob for Apples here, dumbing down the program? WHY does it do this, and what was the purpose? I mean--what was the thinking behind this, other than some view that we have to protect those who don't learn how to make their books properly, if I may ask?

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Old 05-27-2012, 06:35 AM   #17
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If you add a blank file as the first file then it will not be marked as Cover (it was checking only the first file and only if it had 1 image would it get marked as Cover), at least from a quick test.

The functionality was there long before I arrived, and probably just left there because no one mentioned it. I'm sure it was added then in order to try to be helpful. But as of the next release it should be gone as user_none removed it.
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Old 05-27-2012, 09:57 PM   #19
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If you add a blank file as the first file then it will not be marked as Cover (it was checking only the first file and only if it had 1 image would it get marked as Cover), at least from a quick test.

The functionality was there long before I arrived, and probably just left there because no one mentioned it. I'm sure it was added then in order to try to be helpful. But as of the next release it should be gone as user_none removed it.
Okay--I'm officially confused; didn't you tell me a blank file as the first file wouldn't work, and are you now telling me it would? I admit I'm simply curious here...

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Old 05-28-2012, 02:02 AM   #20
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Okay--I'm officially confused; didn't you tell me a blank file as the first file wouldn't work, and are you now telling me it would? I admit I'm simply curious here...
Sort of. I thought you said something different so I said it would'nt work, but as per my test and my earlier post, a blank first file should work.

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Old 05-28-2012, 03:23 AM   #21
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meme:

Maybe it was how I said it? I think I said sticking in something like an empty para in the "blank file," because per most ePUB renderers, the empty para, without anything stylistic (i.e., always-break-after/before) shouldn't affect how the ePUB was rendered to the end viewer. I do not know, though (thinking....) what would happen in KG 2.4. Well, a warning for sure (no cover embedded)...and I think KG would ignore the empty para, as it should...and without a page-break-before/after, it should (famous last words) work correctly.

Ah--a thought; you'd need a slightly differently styled first chapter head or first title (e.g., Epigraph or Dedication or Title whatever that second page with the graphic that is NOT a cover is), because if one used consistently styled headers throughout, with CSS implementing, page-break-before, you'd want to dupe that style and eliminate that one call for the first header AFTER the blank page...yes, I think that would work across ePUB readers in general and in KG. I think.

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Old 05-30-2012, 12:55 PM   #22
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Thanks for the help and the insight everyone, we've already figured out the editing of the content.opf file, its just adding about 15-20 seconds extra time to the process. You're probably saying OOOHH 15-20 seconds, but it adds up when you are converting hundreds of books.

Meme, are you saying it should only happen if the first .xhtml file has one and only one image in it?

If its getting fixed in the next release, we should be able to wait and continue doing what you are doing.

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Old 05-30-2012, 01:07 PM   #23
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Yes, it should only happen if the first Text file has one and only one image in it.
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