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My question to you as writers, is this: would you have the courage to invent a new word if there was no existing word to describe the concept that you were looking for?
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The problem isn't so much the need for new words, as whether or not a writer is capable of risking criticism for creating a word instead of explaining the concept in a more awkward but technically correct way. Innovation is more likely to be seen as incorrectness. |
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Asimov is noted as the first to use the word "robotics", but it is a fairly intuitive extension to "robot", apparently coined by Karel Čapek and that was understandable as the base of words such as robota and robotnik (or so I read on dictionary.com).
Such word creation is fairly common in science fiction and fantasy, but these aren't quite the same thing, are they? They're mostly names for new things or new or developing concepts. Boredom was hardly a new concept. But I have to ask: how did readers know what Dickens meant? What was the derivation that allowed them to understand this first usage? (I can understand how "around the clock" and "red tape" may be understandable, given context and familiarity with the period, but boredom?) I had need for a good word for an existing concept in my current writing, but I went to another language to get it (Sanskrit). So I guess that means no, I didn't have what it takes to invent a new word, I borrowed one (actually several as it turned out) from elsewhere. |
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I would have no problem inventing of "adapting" a word for a science fiction of fantastical story, but for, say, as straight thriller, I doubt I'd have the courage. It would most likely pull the reader out of the action, muttering WTF???
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I'm always fascinated (and often amused) when new words are added to the dictionary.
http://nws.merriam-webster.com/opend...lay_recent.php http://www.oed.com/public/wordslist0312 However, I haven't invented any new words since I was about 9 years old. I need to work on that! |
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I'd be very reluctant to invent a new word. As an Indie Author, I know I'd be dinged for it and probably quite impolitely. Inventing new words is the province of officially published authors only, and it is further reserved only for those so talented as my beloved Charles Dickens.
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I've "invented" a word or two, but as mentioned already... they were words for new things in a new world. (I write sci fi / fantasy).
To make up a new word that is a modification of current words, sure I could see that. To make up a new word to explain a current day thing/feeling/etc. I think is a completely different concept. Without a foot note, or extensive context clues, how would the reader know what you are saying? They can not look the word up in the dictionary. Seems like you would end up with a failure to communicate. And if you have extensive context clues anyways... did you really need the new word?
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So far, I don't think I've ever been in a position to need to invent a new word; I was always able to say what I wanted to say with established words. So it's hard to say whether I would invent a word. If I thought it was necessary to the story, I'd probably do it (and duck when it came back at me).
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I invent all words all the time, my problem is trying to remember what they mean. It's great that these kinds of questions and ideas are asked by so many intelligent people. It's such a relief from the dumbed down stuff that I hear from the talking heads on the boober, but I have to admit that sometimes I get really forumized.
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Many of my favorite SF authors either invent words or take over the contemporary meaning to describe some future common thing, event, or action. It doesn't rub me the wrong way in SF as much as it would in straight literature (if "boredom" was invented today) or other genres.
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Invented words are used all the time in science fiction and fantasy.
For example: http://io9.com/5850293/10-words-you-...cience-fiction |
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From dictionary.com I find four possible meanings given by the -dom suffix: 1. state or condition: freedom ; martyrdom 2. rank or office: earldom 3. domain: kingdom ; Christendom 4. a collection of persons: officialdom Which one did Dickens actually mean? "In the desolation of Boredom", with - it appears - the Dickens' provided capitalisation, and the word context, we might think that he actually meant domain rather than state. Later he uses the word again in "whose chronic malady of boredom", and also "the prevalent complaint of boredom", and a few more in which domain does not seem to apply. The only other applicable -dom words I find in there are thraldom and freedom, both of which would be state extensions. I am left wondering if he actually invented two words: the proper noun, Boredom, for the land of the bored, and the other noun, boredom, for the state of being bored. |
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