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Old 05-25-2012, 10:28 PM   #16
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Use code view to add, at the beginning of each file, something like this:

<div class="header">Book Title</div>

and add to the CSS styles:

div.header { display: oeb-page-head; }


(In Bookeen readers, you can just enable page headers, and you'll have the book title on each page, regardless of how the book is coded.)
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Old 05-26-2012, 01:18 PM   #19
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You could also create a fixed-layout ePub. I.e. an ePub where each page is hard-coded as a separate .xhtml file. This would give you absolute freedom about the placement of headers and footers.
However, there are several downsides: Fixed-layout ePubs are more time-consuming to create than regular ePubs, there are several different fixed-layout flavors and relatively few readers fully support them.
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Old 05-26-2012, 02:16 PM   #20
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And also, there are very few readers that can read fixed layout ePUB. iBooks is one of the few.
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Old 05-26-2012, 02:42 PM   #21
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Fixed-layout ePubs are an aberration, in my opinion. If you need fixed-layout, use PDF.
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Old 05-27-2012, 09:51 PM   #22
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Fixed-layout ePubs are an aberration, in my opinion. If you need fixed-layout, use PDF.
PDF, now there's and Idea to experiment with!. FWIW, I like all the suggestions. I love to play around with ebooks! I like changing the font, etc.. I could even change the ending to a story if I want. Try that with a paper or hardback! I found a good book on Project gutenberg, for my granddaughter, I changed all occurrences of the main protagonists name to the name of my granddaughter. She loved it!
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Old 05-27-2012, 10:22 PM   #23
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Well, that refusal to discuss the topic on this (appropriate) forum seems to have been short-lived.

What the OP seems not to comprehend is that the method of creating the "page header," and the software used to create the ePUB (whether Sigil, Calibre, etc.) is irrelevant; the fact the the CSS is unsupported across the board, by ePUB DEVICES, is the issue. Sigil is, and was, utterly irrelevant to the question, the topic, and the answer.

@P3aul: the vast majority of epub readers (people) are not happy with "wasted space" being used by page headers, as they figure they are intelligent enough to know what book they are reading. It's like the "extra line" between paragraphs created by writers hitting the "enter" key twice before starting the next paragraph. I suspect that while most ePUB-folks continue to object to wasting space this way, most devices will continue to not support it. Apple provides a "page header," but it pulls the information from the metadata, NOT the CSS, so whatever you put there would be overriden; ditto Kindle8. Again: to be clear, this has nothing whatsoever to do with Sigil.

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Old 05-28-2012, 05:22 PM   #24
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Fixed-layout ePubs are an aberration, in my opinion. If you need fixed-layout, use PDF.
There are supported in the ePub 3 specification so I suspect they are here to stay. They are easier to control than PDF and are much cheaper to build than buying Acrobat from Adobe.

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Thank you(most of you) for the helpful posts anyway!
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:46 PM   #26
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There are supported in the ePub 3 specification so I suspect they are here to stay. They are easier to control than PDF and are much cheaper to build than buying Acrobat from Adobe.

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But at the moment, we don't have readers that handle ePub 3. So for now, it won't work.
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Old 05-28-2012, 08:11 PM   #27
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Thank you(most of you) for the helpful posts anyway!
I have built a new wiki page on how headers and footers are supposed to work. headers and footers. Interestingly enough they did work in the original OEB standard that preceded ePub and were supported by early eBook readers including LIT from Microsoft which conformed to this earlier standard. It is not clear why this wasn't carried forward except that Adobe chose not to support it for some reason. Anyway I hope this is helpful.
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But at the moment, we don't have readers that handle ePub 3. So for now, it won't work.
Well, that is not true. Both Kindle KF8 and Apple iBooks claim to support ePub 3 and we have Azardi for PCs. There are more on the way but I have no idea if these readers really have this support as they are supposed to. Perhaps if we keep on yelling the manufacturers and programmers will finally listen.

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And also, there are very few readers that can read fixed layout ePUB. iBooks is one of the few.
There are more and more readers with fixed layout ePub support including Kobo which uses iBooks approach, Barnes and Noble with its own version and Amazon in its KF8 format. Hopefully the ePub 3 standard will prevail in the long run but there are still likely to be extensions to the standard.

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Thanks, Dale. I will certainly visit your wiki! But be careful when you disagree. i just got a warning from a Net Nannie when I responded to an ill-mannered poster who sent a sarcastic post to me. and now i will probably have this post deleted also. Oh well!
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