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Old 05-17-2012, 06:48 AM   #61
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http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/water...en-bookstores/

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Waterstones put a lot more book shops out of business than Amazon ever will.
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Old 05-17-2012, 11:16 AM   #62
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Ebook piracy existed long before Amazon started selling ebooks, but Amazon still announces record ebook sales every year. Why aren't people just downloading the pirate ones for free instead? People are also paying money for public domain books like Sherlock Holmes (best selling ebook title on Amazon UK), so it can't just be because of legality.
Convenience.
It is quicker, simpler and safer to buy a book from Amazon than to find the illegal copy.
That is the point of going after MegaUpload, TPB and so on, to make it more and more difficult to find the illegal copy.

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Old 05-17-2012, 01:41 PM   #63
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Ebook piracy existed long before Amazon started selling ebooks, but Amazon still announces record ebook sales every year. Why aren't people just downloading the pirate ones for free instead? People are also paying money for public domain books like Sherlock Holmes (best selling ebook title on Amazon UK), so it can't just be because of legality.
Some people do. The latest Bowker survey revealed 19% read an ebook but only 11% bought one. Where did those 8% get their ebooks? Public domain, free, library, lending ... yes. But some most likely by unauthorized downloading.
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Old 05-17-2012, 01:55 PM   #64
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People buy them now, but what happens when most of your sales are in eFormat for books/comics/magazines?
Donations, T-shirts, adds, etc.
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You're joking right?

Would you do your job for donations?
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Old 05-18-2012, 12:31 PM   #66
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Oh woe. I must go and put myself in the naughty corner for not agreeing with you.
Pretending that people you disagree with are engaging in nonproductive discourse is intellectually dishonest, asinine, arrogant, and hypocritical when you engage in the same behavior yourself.

If you've run out of arguments, you could just say nothing.
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Old 05-18-2012, 05:09 PM   #67
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http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/water...en-bookstores/

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James Daunt is an idiot. If what he was trying to say was true, it would have been an issue long about with pBooks. It's not an issue then and it's not an issue now.
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Old 05-19-2012, 09:24 PM   #68
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And once again the latest file sharing study concludes that illegal downloading in fact increases sales. This, of course, is the actual overall consensus of independent research, rather than what the OP would like it to be.
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And once again the latest file sharing study concludes that illegal downloading in fact increases sales. This, of course, is the actual overall consensus of independent research, rather than what the OP would like it to be.
This "independent" research is as "independent" as the industry sponsored ones. All we do know is that actual music sales have increased in France after the introduction of the three-strikes law.
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Old 05-20-2012, 09:15 AM   #70
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I conclude with an investigation of the distributional effects of file sharing on sales and find that file sharing benefits more established and popular artists but not newer and smaller artists.
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If an album leaks a month in advance of its release date, it can sell 60 additional units.
If the 60 addl sales occur with the more popular artists, how can he determine 60 more out of the millions sold?
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This "independent" research is as "independent" as the industry sponsored ones. All we do know is that actual music sales have increased in France after the introduction of the three-strikes law.
By a tiny fraction of the cost of Hadopi to French tax payers, and only on iTunes (an American company). I would be surprised if the law isn't scrapped within the next year by the new president.
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You're joking right?

Would you do your job for donations?
Donations was just an example. You ignored the other two for some reason. And if authors make the donation option available on their website, that means that they want donations.

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This "independent" research is as "independent" as the industry sponsored ones. All we do know is that actual music sales have increased in France after the introduction of the three-strikes law.
But without any connection to it. In 2009 music sales increased in many countries.
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