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Old 05-04-2012, 12:18 PM   #16
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I think that the market is saturated with devices. The Kindle and Nook have been well marketed. Fifty percent of Americans do not read one book a year, most read no more then five books a year. So the sub set of heavy readers is pretty small and most of those folks probably have e-readers at this time. (shrugs)
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Old 05-04-2012, 12:36 PM   #17
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I think that the market is saturated with devices.
Exactly. There's only so many people who would have use of them. And it's harder to engineer planned-obsolescence into devices that just need to put some legible words on a page.

We don't need more cores in our processors and who cares if a battery lasts 1 month or 2 between charges?

I guess tougher screens and efficient "glowlights" would be nice, but that's really all I could ask for and I doubt even that would get me to upgrade.
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The Kindle isn't really in competition with the iPad. The Fire isn't an "iPad Killer", but an attempt to take some of the tablet market. With tablets, and computers in general, the next model always offers some new features that seriously tempt people. Your old 486 computer may do the tasks just fine that a computer from 20 years ago would be asked to do, but few people would want one today, they need their computer to do more. But an e-reader is like a can opener. It does one task and does it well. Most will only buy a new can opener when it no longer works, and a lot of people feel the same way about their e-readers. If it still works for reading books, who needs a new one? Sure, some people want the newest model, but a whole lot of people just keep using single-function devives until they no longer work.
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Old 05-04-2012, 12:50 PM   #19
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Jeff Bezos has been clear in many an interview that the sale of the Kindle and the e-book market are seperate business groups within Amazon. The Kindle is there so that people buy the device and than buy books. But the books are their own business entity. If we have hit market saturation for e-readers, and I would not be surprised if we have, we have not hit market saturation for e-books.

Due to the various apps that are available, Kindle books can be read on all sorts of tablets as well as e-readers. So the market for Kindle e-books continues to grow.
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:07 PM   #20
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IMO, huge argument for market saturation more than anything.
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I think that the market is saturated with devices. The Kindle and Nook have been well marketed. Fifty percent of Americans do not read one book a year, most read no more then five books a year. So the sub set of heavy readers is pretty small and most of those folks probably have e-readers at this time. (shrugs)
Exactly. Almost every person I know that would be willing to read on an ereader already has one. Everyone else is going for multi-function tablets.
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:21 PM   #21
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We don't need more cores in our processors and who cares if a battery lasts 1 month or 2 between charges?

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I would like a reader with a battery life twice as long as my current one (I don't get a month). I would also like mine to be faster.

I would also like better software. And higher resolution.
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:19 PM   #22
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Raises hand.

I would like a reader with a battery life twice as long as my current one (I don't get a month). I would also like mine to be faster.

I would also like better software. And higher resolution.
How much would you pay for that specsheet?
$200?
$300?

Note that the iRiver HD has an XGA screen instead of SVGA. And the market yawned.
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Old 05-04-2012, 05:01 PM   #23
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I would also like better software. And higher resolution.
Software is one place all eInk readers could do better IMO.
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Old 05-04-2012, 07:01 PM   #24
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How much would you pay for that specsheet?
$200?
$300?
sure.
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Note that the iRiver HD has an XGA screen instead of SVGA. And the market yawned.
It also had a keyboard when everyone was going touch.

I don't want a keyboard. Touch isn't a deal killer either.
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Note that the iRiver HD has an XGA screen instead of SVGA. And the market yawned.
The fact that it looks and feels like a cheaply-made Fisher-Price toy didn't help.

(based on my admittedly few experiences with a Target demo model - it seemed low-rent compared to the other models on the shelves)
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:11 PM   #26
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Amazon's E-Ink Kindle Sales May Have Been A Disaster Last Quarter, so says The SF Chronicle and IDC.

Uh, No, They Weren't, and You're an Idiot, says PC World and Stephen Baker of NPD Group.

Baker's analysis is basically that Amazon had way more Kindle Fires produced (around 5 million) than were sold in their initial release during the 4th quarter holiday season. So they didn't need to order as many in the first quarter. Amazon only ordered less than a million, but still sold nearly 2 million units in the first quarter. The Kindle Fire is doing quite well, thank you.
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And we shouldn't forget that the Fire is still US only.
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Old 05-04-2012, 10:40 PM   #28
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I don't think the market is over-saturated, though I do think that all the people who fall into the early adopters category have enough devices that incremental changes are not necessarily going to induce them to buy the 'latest, best ereader". I mean, I have five ereader devices (not including my computers), I really don't need another one.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:35 PM   #29
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I don't think the market is over-saturated, though I do think that all the people who fall into the early adopters category have enough devices that incremental changes are not necessarily going to induce them to buy the 'latest, best ereader". I mean, I have five ereader devices (not including my computers), I really don't need another one.
I agree. Like you I have a ton of devices and don't need another.

What would maybe get me looking is if there were some big improvements on the software side of things on a new device as I don't think there's anything new and must have slated on the hardware end.
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I agree entirely. I paid well over $200 for my early (in the UK) Touch and cover. It's one of my most treasured gadgets, and I've had a new iPad every launch day so far.
An eInk reader is a specialist device for prolific readers.....
Harry and amj - my feelings exactly.

I am a readerholic, as are all the family, and simply want a specific device that will further my enjoyment of reading - I only want to read, as easily, as well, and as simply as possible, not do anything else with it. Good colour illustrations are about the only major thing extra I'd like.

I don't even use wifi much on the T1, I'm very happy with Calibre, it's simple and does the job superbly, and that's also what I look for in a reader.
I do have different readers for certain circumstances - the 350 for travel, waiting rooms, Heathrow airport, etc... for example - but they are all for reading, not multi-entertainment centres.
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