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Old 04-30-2012, 10:40 AM   #16
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HI these screen shots I posted are not actually my device it was the show Harry how far one can get away from the stock KF look
without rooting

I am aware of all of the screen customization option of Go launcher
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:10 AM   #17
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While I get and appreciate the point, I must say those examples look a lot more cluttered and distracting than Amazon's customized Fire look.
If that's suggestive of what a 'standard' Android tablet looks like, I can see why so much of the consumer market waited for Amazon's 'non standard.'
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"While I get and appreciate the point, I must say those examples look a lot more cluttered and distracting than Amazon's customized Fire look.
If that's suggestive of what a 'standard' Android tablet looks like, I can see why so much of the consumer market waited for Amazon's 'non standard.'"
You are right those are not very interesting screen set ups
I googled them rather hastily in response to Harr-Y's comment about the stock interface

I have attached some photos of a few of my Kindle Fire screens
the only thing that identifies my device as a kindle is the obvious "Anabran's kindle" title in the upper left corner.

And btw I disagree the consumers were waiting for a Look different from android interface
it seems most were waiting for a tablet that did not start at $500 USD for the base model and required itunes to synch content.
only us 'tinkerers" or existing android users actually care that much about the interface IMHO.
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But I can still run pretty much any app that works on Windows 3.1 beyond on Windows 8, which is my point. They needed to completely ditch the backwards compatibility which makes Windows prone to security issues in the first place. The fact that Windows Mobile and Windows Phone use Windows Embedded instead of just Windows makes them much more secured.

WinRT will be ditching that old framework, but the versions that run on Intel won't.
And DOS
It's called emulation or WoW (windows on windows) and, now, i guess, windows embedded. I'm a fan. Backwards compatability in any form preserves the value of my software library.

To make these more secure, simply run in a sandbox/vm and isolate from the rest of the system.
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I have attached some photos of a few of my Kindle Fire screens
Very tasteful.

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And btw I disagree the consumers were waiting for a Look different from android interface
True enough, I'm sure.
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only us 'tinkerers" or existing android users actually care that much about the interface IMHO.
Well, except in the sense that the mass market, I think, wants appliance-like UIs that "just work."
In addition to other factors, the fact that Amazon used a GUI that that a barely-pc-literate consumer could quickly intuit to make use of the device's primary functions, had to help.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:15 PM   #21
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HI these screen shots I posted are not actually my device it was the show Harry how far one can get away from the stock KF look
without rooting

I am aware of all of the screen customization option of Go launcher
I will admit it took me about a day to find that.

But then again it was my first taste of android
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:49 PM   #22
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"Amazon used a GUI that that a barely-pc-literate consumer could quickly intuit to make use of the device's primary functions, had to help."
I agree completely
the stock interface is very user friendly for non techy laypeople who are exactly Amazon's target audience.

Smart marketing/branding move by them for sure.
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:09 PM   #23
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You are right those are not very interesting screen set ups
I googled them rather hastily in response to Harr-Y's comment about the stock interface

I have attached some photos of a few of my Kindle Fire screens
the only thing that identifies my device as a kindle is the obvious "Anabran's kindle" title in the upper left corner.
Is your Kindle Fire rooted?

The reason for asking is that there are things like ever-changing wallpaper that can only be corrected by rooting. (or is my knowledge obsolete and there's a way to keep the wallpaper from automatically changing without rooting?)
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If you press and hold the Phone, Person, etc icons on the bottom row you
can change them (not sure if you knew that). it makes it look less like a phone.
I have tried Go launcher at least 5 more times since I had an issue with it. All works well for time and then I experience a freeze up which, it seems, can only be remedied by uninstalling it (after a bit of fiddling to avoid that). Have you experienced this at all? I do still use the Kindle reader and occ go back to the stock launcher while I have GL installed. Any ideas? One would have to be crazy not to prefer an alternate launcher as the boring bookshelves get to you after awhile. I also experienced the same problem with the ICS launcher. I thought ADW was ugly. Any tips?
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The reason for asking is that there are things like ever-changing wallpaper that can only be corrected by rooting. (or is my knowledge obsolete and there's a way to keep the wallpaper from automatically changing without rooting?)"
No I am not rooted.
I am running an app called"rotating wall paper"

it allows you to chose from your own sets of wall papers bypassing the built in amazon ones
you can set to rotation frequency from minutes or up to a month if you wanted the background to stay constant you could stack your rotation set with identical images and your background would appear to stay constant.
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HI since the reason go launcher problems persisted was never truly solved for some users, I cant offer any advice as it remains a mystery why people like me can run it& rotating wallpaper while others can not.

But My personal solution for reading all book types without switching back over to the ugly Amazon carousel,
was to install the "cool reader" app
with it I browsed over to my Default "books" directory
to open the few .mobi books I got from Amazon
All of my other books are Epub and are read with Aldiko premium.
This helps my avoid having to do alot of conversions with caliber.
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But I can still run pretty much any app that works on Windows 3.1 beyond on Windows 8, which is my point. They needed to completely ditch the backwards compatibility which makes Windows prone to security issues in the first place. The fact that Windows Mobile and Windows Phone use Windows Embedded instead of just Windows makes them much more secured.

WinRT will be ditching that old framework, but the versions that run on Intel won't.
It might be more than eye candy but it's god awful.
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But I can still run pretty much any app that works on Windows 3.1 beyond on Windows 8, which is my point.
Can you? That's true of the desktop version of Windows 8, but I was under the impression (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that the tablet version was a totally new o/s which was NOT backward compatible with Intel apps.
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Can you? That's true of the desktop version of Windows 8, but I was under the impression (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that the tablet version was a totally new o/s which was NOT backward compatible with Intel apps.
That's only if it's ARM based (it's a whole other architecture). The Intel based hardware machines will be able to still run old apps.

I don't know if they have plans to make Intel based tablets with Windows 8, but they have made XP, Vista, and 7 ones for like ever now.
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