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Old 06-06-2012, 09:05 AM   #151
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The first of the TOR DRM free books is out.

Red Shirts by Scalzi.

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Old 06-06-2012, 05:49 PM   #152
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Is Tor going to make all the eBooks put out before Redshirts DRM free?
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Old 06-06-2012, 06:52 PM   #153
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Is Tor going to make all the eBooks put out before Redshirts DRM free?
New downloads of the backlist will become DRM free, but they haven't committed to allowing redownloads without DRM.
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Old 06-06-2012, 07:08 PM   #154
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New downloads of the backlist will become DRM free, but they haven't committed to allowing redownloads without DRM.
I wonder how stores are going to handle that. There were enough issues just getting Redshirts out there without DRM and I still think some shops have it DRMed.
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Old 06-07-2012, 08:33 AM   #155
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The first of the TOR DRM free books is out.

Red Shirts by Scalzi.

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On Amazon, how can you tell if it is DRM free? And looking on Kobo, it still says Adobe DRM EPub?
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Old 06-07-2012, 08:36 AM   #156
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The author has explained the options available to customers who end up with a DRM'ed copy of Red Shirts on his blog.
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Old 06-07-2012, 08:37 AM   #157
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He also suggested that people who get a DRMed copy might consult Apprentice Alf — he even gave a link to Alf's blog!
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Old 06-07-2012, 08:40 AM   #158
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On Amazon, how can you tell if it is DRM free?
Someone may come along and offer some more info, but the only way that I'm aware of is to look for "Simultaneous Device Usage: Unlimited" under the Product Details. If it doesn't have that line, I think the book has DRM but I don't think they come right out and say that.
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Old 06-07-2012, 08:45 AM   #159
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They got away from using the "Simultaneous Device Usage: Unlimited" thing for a while, but I think it's back now (in the U.S. store, at least). It's hard to keep track.
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There will be solid results in a year or so. If there are no significant losses, I will change my mind on the issue and switch to urging publishers to abandon DRM.
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If, after going DRM free at or below their current ebook prices, TOR's ebook sales over the following year do not increase by at least 75% of the general ebook market unit increase (Or SF/Fantasy category increase if that is, by then, counted separately), I will cease to advocate for DRM free ebooks, and, indeed, I'll recommend that publishers should keep DRM on their ebooks.

I've just noticed that there's was a half-year update on this in December 2012 from John Sargent, buried in a release about the DOJ Lawsuit:

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This year we went DRM-free at TOR. It is still too early to tell the outcome, but initial results suggest there was no increase in piracy.
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Tor have said that they've seen "no discernible increase in piracy" a year after they decided to go DRM-free

http://torbooks.co.uk/2013/04/25/drm-free-a-year-on/
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Did they ever launch the ebook store they had announced? I can't find any trace of it.
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There seems to be a third-party TOR store.

But I can't find a Tor-branded Tor ebook store.
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There seems to be a third-party TOR store.

But I can't find a Tor-branded Tor ebook store.
Thanks, I know about Dragonmount, but thought maybe I'd missed the actual TOR store that they said was coming last summer somehow.
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