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Old 07-11-2012, 04:50 PM   #886
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Players beware - Bob just downvalued (by a huge amount) the high population assets. Don't go surging your cores (or upgrading them).
Thanks for the warning. I actually sold off some (theoreticaly) spare non-population assets to make way for some higher population ones when I got more bucks on the next round.

Dang. Now that plan is shot.

Is it just me, or have there already been lot more mid-game changes after the reboot than there was in the Beta version? Or did I just not notice the earlier ones?
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Old 07-11-2012, 05:12 PM   #887
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I just noticed the population ones too - still managed to stay in the green after upgrading and surging the high level cores on level 20, though, and I don't expect to go into the red even by morning on anything.
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Old 07-11-2012, 05:42 PM   #888
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Things change as quickly as on the beta (and as wildly), with no warning. You can be in the middle of upgrading assets and when you surge the core, have no pop go to millions.

Had I known the new values, I would not have purchased the assets I did at the last two level upgrades (which were only a few hours apart), placed cores where I did or upgraded the ones I did (with no chance even to surge them once).

Other assets I sold (as they were of little use) are now gone (and can't be purchased) and are now of higher value. the game is getting more annoying than fun.
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Old 07-11-2012, 06:17 PM   #889
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Is it just me or did the cost of level 20 rise by a billion bucks? I just scraped by.

At this rate level 30 will be a number too big for a signed int to hold.
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Old 07-11-2012, 06:35 PM   #890
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Other assets I sold (as they were of little use) are now gone (and can't be purchased) and are now of higher value. the game is getting more annoying than fun.
Yeah, it's hard to make plans when everything can change at any time.

The new values have really screwed me up since I'd made other plans. No hope now of catching up any time soon, not sure I'll bother anymore.
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Is it just me or did the cost of level 20 rise by a billion bucks? I just scraped by.

At this rate level 30 will be a number too big for a signed int to hold.
Yep, it did. The increase is rather unfortunate, as I make about 67 million a cycle.
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Yeah, it's hard to make plans when everything can change at any time.

The new values have really screwed me up since I'd made other plans. No hope now of catching up any time soon, not sure I'll bother anymore.
I feel the same way. I am screwed, too.
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Old 07-12-2012, 02:48 PM   #893
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I'm stuck on level 16 for now. Going to take me a day or two to get enough bucks to level up. Can't see how the wait would be fun at the higher levels.
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:38 AM   #894
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I finally am at the point of giving up. What was a totally uninteresting way of getting free books has now become uninteresting and boring. I was two cycles away from levelling up when the amount needed more or less doubled.

I have dumped all my saved bucks into random alliances and intend to login once a week or so, surge a bit to keep up with the natural population growth and dump all the bucks I have into the alliances, easier than fiddling around with pointless projects and saving up for levels. Bucks per level seem slightly higher than bucks for alliances especially as there is a book every four allies instead of every 5 levels.

If whacks destabilise the freehold then it can crash a burn, I'll just go and read some books.
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Old 07-13-2012, 09:55 AM   #895
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I actually don't wonder they make it exponentially harder to level up. Give some coupons out is one thing. Provideing a constant flow of them would be counterproductive since nobody would need to buy the books then. "Get all you want just for playing" surely isn't the goal of this.
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Old 07-13-2012, 11:25 AM   #896
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I actually don't wonder they make it exponentially harder to level up. Give some coupons out is one thing. Provideing a constant flow of them would be counterproductive since nobody would need to buy the books then. "Get all you want just for playing" surely isn't the goal of this.
While the coupons were nice, I played because I wanted to play a game. Those who wanted a real easy way to get an ebooks probably didn't last long. The few people I pointed to the site quit pretty quickly. Too much work for a freebie when so many free ones out there on offer every day.

But I liked the game, up to a point. I don't mind if they make it harder to get a coupon, but do mind when they make the game so hard that there's no real point to playing it. Nothing to do for long periods where it's just barely needed to check in a a minute and click a few buttons. Georgous graphics, (although not always placed well or easy to see.) I have sleep issues, so if I was awake at odd hours it was something interesting to do while I wasn't sleeping or reading. (In fact, I think I hit almost every cycle for a week or more. Good for game playing, but bad on getting any sleep).

And I'm obviously not very good at it, since even since the restart I've been lagging behind everyone else. Not surprising, since I don't play strategy games very well, and everyone and their mother can kick my ass at chess. But it was at least interesting for a while, and do-able.

I'd stay if there were fewer freebies, and fewer un-announced changes, (they have my email addy, why can't they let me know what's going on?) and it was actually interesting for a while. Heck, if they'd opened the store to trading or purchasing, that would have made a huge difference.

But what ever fun there was, in it as a game, is gone for me. I got screwed by bad timing on selling off stuff to buy more, then having them change stuff that very cycle. I'll never catch up, so no point to it now.
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I went to redeem my first free ebook and I got this: Baen Ebooks email not found. You need a Baen Ebooks (http://www.baenebooks.com) account using the same email as your Planet Baen account.
So I went to baenebooks.com and made an account using the same email address.

Why am I still getting the error several cycles later?

Edit: Never mind. I typed my email incorrectly.

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I just got an error saying the coupon server was down and to email support. I have now forgotten the email address I was supposed to contact.
Does anyone else know it? I think it was something like support@baenebooks.com
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Finally at Level 17. It would have happened much sooner, but then the cost more than doubled from ~ 150 million Bucks to ~385 million just when I had another two cycles to go.

I think my strategy now is to sell off anything which isn't a Bliss/Pop-suppressing or otherwise functional surging asset and replace them all with upgraded Bynums, and then only do the projects right before the next level, since some of the components have low values which will be making less income and can't be sold off until the next level-up.

At the current rate of income, excluding surges and gifts, I should be able to make level 18 in 12 days.

17
Baen Bucks: 9,517
Baen Bliss: 80,746
Population: 12,571
Food: 3,941,525
Energy: 5,381,063
Military: 3,768,408
Surge Pts Left this Cycle: 2/85
Total Bucks per Cycle: 9,160,832
from Assets: 8,947,125
from Pop.: 213,707
Political Adj to Asset Bucks: +25%
Bliss - Base Need: 17,891
Low-Bliss Cost: 0
Energy - Base Need: 5,267,924
Low-Energy Bliss Cost: 0%
Food - Base Need: 3,828,386
Low Food Bliss Pct Penalty: 0%
Famine Pop. Loss: 0
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