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Old 03-09-2012, 03:04 PM   #31
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So... I need to brood? Great. My "brood" just comes off as "angry."
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Old 03-09-2012, 03:39 PM   #32
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Hi David, I'm convinced you're right there. I actually did an experiment on Authonomy (Harper Collins writers' site/'slush pile) putting up a nondescript work with a much more interesting 'author.' I pulled it off after only 10 days, but in that 10 days, it soared up the ranks. And I've noticed the authors who get TV interviews and such are always attractive. Where does it leave the ordinary, unattractive utterly brilliant ones (like me?)
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Appearances are everything on the web nowadays. However, with a little effort and work, I believe one can project the right image. And that image doesn't have to be attractive (on the web). On TV, maybe.

Hugh Hefner called them props. For him it was a pipe and a fast car and a smoking jacket and... a few girls. Hugh was, among other things, an author.

For other successful authors it might be a hoodie, or a big scraggly beard, or a bandaid over one eye, or a black Tuxedo. Point being, the projected image must be strategic and well-thought-out.

It's obviously a very powerful thing to have a profile image that is, at once, personal to you as an author and surprising enough to stick out from the pack.
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Old 03-09-2012, 05:08 PM   #34
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Appearances are everything on the web nowadays. However, with a little effort and work, I believe one can project the right image. And that image doesn't have to be attractive (on the web). On TV, maybe.

Hugh Hefner called them props. For him it was a pipe and a fast car and a smoking jacket and... a few girls. Hugh was, among other things, an author.

For other successful authors it might be a hoodie, or a big scraggly beard, or a bandaid over one eye, or a black Tuxedo. Point being, the projected image must be strategic and well-thought-out.

It's obviously a very powerful thing to have a profile image that is, at once, personal to you as an author and surprising enough to stick out from the pack.
So I guess its official, I need to get rid of my garish Hawaiian shirts and flops, and make myself a fantasy costume out of red fabric?

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Old 03-09-2012, 05:09 PM   #35
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So... I need to brood? Great. My "brood" just comes off as "angry."
That is the tricky part, isn't it? People have very little patience for complaining on the web. Perhaps good author "brooding" should follow the rules of "show/don't tell" i.e. a profile pic that really shows what a "deep" thinker one is, expose his/her wartorn soul, etc. Like this guy -> minus the big yellow, round face.
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Old 03-09-2012, 05:12 PM   #36
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So I guess its official, I need to get rid of my garish Hawaiian shirts and flops, and make myself a fantasy costume out of red fabric?

Honestly, that sounds like it might be worth, at least, an A/B marketing test.

None of us can really say what will work in advance. It's just too complex. I think we just have to "test and track".
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Old 03-09-2012, 06:28 PM   #37
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If "brooding" means look like a miserable old sod, I can do that...

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Old 03-09-2012, 06:52 PM   #38
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You see! I just clicked on your blog and checked out your books! It must work. People are interested in people.
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Old 03-10-2012, 01:42 AM   #39
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speaking simply as a reader, i don't care what an author looks like. the authors i like look like the kinds of people who should be writing sword&sorcery and zombie novels lol. i'm a nerd so its ok if they are too .the one thing that is guaranteed to turn me away from an indie novel is a goofy pen name. it doesn't happen very often but when it does its a doozy. your ww2 alternate history tale about zombies vs robo-nazis might be a great read but if its published under the name Satan Demonseed or Rain Mourningdove i'll never know because that screams 'bored teenager' or 'talentless goth whose only writing experience is in their journal' to me.


cover art is important too. i'd rather they use a theme appropriate public domain image than hand their kid paper&magic markers or let their dog try their paw at photoshop. i shouldn't feel embarrassed for the author but it does happen quite regularly. that space ship might have looked sweet in a pc game from 1991 but its 2012 and you're trying to be thought of as a serious author.

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So I guess its official, I need to get rid of my garish Hawaiian shirts and flops, and make myself a fantasy costume out of red fabric?

Sounds good to me! As long as it is sufficiently modest, and fun, why not?
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Perhaps good author "brooding" should follow the rules of "show/don't tell" i.e. a profile pic that really shows what a "deep" thinker one is, expose his/her wartorn soul, etc. Like this guy -> minus the big yellow, round face.
Okay, I'll see how much I can look like a brooding smiley-face. (Maybe I can induce jaundice...)
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:52 AM   #42
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As a reader, I actually kind of prefer not to see the authors, but it's not a deal-breaker or anything. Hmm.

I'm pretty sure I've never BOUGHT a book because I saw the author's face, but I can imagine NOT buying one because of a face.
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Honestly, that sounds like it might be worth, at least, an A/B marketing test.

None of us can really say what will work in advance. It's just too complex. I think we just have to "test and track".
Also lets me have some fun with the more interesting GIMP scripts. I figure since I write fantasy, I might as well have a little fun.
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About physical books...

Lots of people still want a physical book.

I was wondering if anyone has had success selling their own physical books on Amazon Marketplace and the B&N marketplace, Ebay, Abe books. etc.

(These marketplaces are very different that you as a publisher selling books to the vendor at 50% off retail price and you have to pay for shipping. Gack!)

Instead, with the marketplaces, you are selling your books basically the same way most dealers sell used books. The book will show up in book listings and lots and lots of people still want a physical book. By using Marketplace, Amazon takes less of a cut (I think about 20-30%) and you get a percentage of the $3-4 shipping they charge. Plus you don't have to deal with shipping to Amazon warehouses, etc. The downside is that you have to physically ship the books yourself with each sale.
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About physical books...

Lots of people still want a physical book.

I was wondering if anyone has had success selling their own physical books on Amazon Marketplace and the B&N marketplace, Ebay, Abe books. etc.

(These marketplaces are very different that you as a publisher selling books to the vendor at 50% off retail price and you have to pay for shipping. Gack!)

Instead, with the marketplaces, you are selling your books basically the same way most dealers sell used books. The book will show up in book listings and lots and lots of people still want a physical book. By using Marketplace, Amazon takes less of a cut (I think about 20-30%) and you get a percentage of the $3-4 shipping they charge. Plus you don't have to deal with shipping to Amazon warehouses, etc. The downside is that you have to physically ship the books yourself with each sale.

My print books are available on Amazon due to my POD (lulu.com) has a deal with them already. All the shipping/etc is covered and it shows up in Amazon's listing as "fulfilled by Amazon" and even works with Prime free shipping.

I assume other POD companies do the same. Much cheaper/easier then trying to keep an inventory of your own.
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