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Old 02-24-2012, 12:03 AM   #16
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If it is released as an ebook for Kindle I may give it a go. Never managed with the Potter thing but then I was not exactly the target audience now was I
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Old 02-24-2012, 12:03 AM   #17
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It seems like it is in fashion to dis things that are popular. the Harry Potter series, nay franchise, probably the most popular and best selling books written in most people here's lifetime... and also exteemly popular and top money making movies.

I'm not saying everyone did or had to like it... but give some respect where it is due. The popularity was no fluke, and I for one am sure I will be getting Rowling's new book.

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Old 02-24-2012, 12:31 AM   #18
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Well many of the kids who were young when the first one came out are now young adults, who are probably ripe for the picking for her "grownup" material. (my oldest daughter was 7 or 8, and will be 22 soon) She never was really into the books much, though.
Lol, I reckon a lot of those readers can be categorized as just adults - no young prefix. First read it when I was 13 back in 1998. Just a couple of years shy of 30 now. For folks who were the same age as Harry when the book was released, they'd already be 25~26 now.
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Potter may have been mediocre, but it did breathe new life into fantasy the way Star Wars helped sci-fi. I doubt we'd have had the wide spectrum of fantasy available today if she hadn't published it.

Sometimes a mediocre work at the right time is better than a masterpiece at the wrong one.
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Must remember that one, excellent.

However - "whose Twilight series at least partially filled the gap opened by the conclusion of the Potter stories. "

Eh ?
Rather like any other magicky wizardy "childrens" books then - oh, or vampirey, forgot that.....

And while praising her appeal to all ages, the article then say's it's tricky for an author once they're categorised as a child's author.......
I think she'll manage.

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Old 02-24-2012, 05:24 AM   #21
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I loved the Harry Potter books and I am looking forward to what Ms. Rowling does next. I don't understand why people who don't like her books feel the need to come into this thread to announce that they don't care about this announcement. Good for you, I guess?
Even though I never could get into the Potter books, I have a huge respect for her success as an author, and am quite interested to see what her new novel will be like. I don't have to personally like the books for myself, to recognize that she had the knack for mass appeal and give her kudos for it.
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Old 02-24-2012, 07:23 AM   #23
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Potter may have been mediocre, but it did breathe new life into fantasy the way Star Wars helped sci-fi. I doubt we'd have had the wide spectrum of fantasy available today if she hadn't published it.
Love it, hate it, or just plain don't care... I don't believe HP has contributed in any way to a "wider spectrum of fantasy available." Brought more young readers to the fantasy genre? Certainly. No doubt about it. And that's no small achievement. But it didn't do anything to increase or affect the variety of fantasy available in the genre. All the various fantasy tropes and subgenres were pretty much the same post-HP as they were pre-HP. No new ground broken.

So while it may seem annoying to some that things that are popular tend to automatically get dissed... I find it equally annoying when things that are popular get attributed with lofty achievements beyond their popularity. Isn't it enough that you enjoyed it? It should be.
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Old 02-24-2012, 07:48 AM   #24
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And 20 years from now, I suppose she'll announce plans for an ebook edition of said work-in-progress?
Actually Little, Brown announced that they would be publishing the physical AND ebook flavors of the book.

Of course that doesn't mean that what they were infering is that they would publish the ebook 18 years after the physical book release, but I can hope.
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No that is reserved for the Twilight series...which I still don't understand how in the Gods' names my wife can enjoy. She universally pans the writting and thinks the themes are horrible, but she has also read the series at least 4 times over now.

Frankly I, and she at least espouses this, worry about books like that seeing as how I am going to have a daughter in the next few weeks. I personally don't think it is a particularly enriching reading experience or good that the take away message from the books is that obsessive personalities and stalking relationships are both normal, good and to be wanted.

I really don't want my daughter reading books like that until she is very much old enough to parse out the horse pucky from it all.

As the books would have you believe, you only truely love someone if you are willing to stalk them and conversly someone only really loves you if they stalk you.
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I never thought much of Star Wars as sci-fi, although as fantasy and allegory it had a certain appeal.
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Love it, hate it, or just plain don't care... I don't believe HP has contributed in any way to a "wider spectrum of fantasy available." Brought more young readers to the fantasy genre? Certainly. No doubt about it. And that's no small achievement. But it didn't do anything to increase or affect the variety of fantasy available in the genre. All the various fantasy tropes and subgenres were pretty much the same post-HP as they were pre-HP. No new ground broken.

So while it may seem annoying to some that things that are popular tend to automatically get dissed... I find it equally annoying when things that are popular get attributed with lofty achievements beyond their popularity. Isn't it enough that you enjoyed it? It should be.
Very nicely put.

IMO popularity is no measure of greatness, or even competence; witness the inordinate number of awful television shows, movies, books, magazines, YouTube videos, etc. Popularity generally is a good measure of how popular something is, and that's about it. Teenagers and younger are immensely conscious of peer acceptance and will follow the trend of almost anything whether it be clothes, music, or, wait for it...books.

I think JK Rowling is a writer of moderate quality, she certainly isn't awful, but IMO she isn't superlative, hence "mediocre." I'm not a "hater" but then again I'm not a "fanboy."
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Well spoken...and at least you did not have a conniption at the "suggestion" of an insult of the ALL MIGHTY HP... I reckon there will be riots on the streets of Europe in 500 years time if anyone tries to purposely delete a copy of a HP novel.... Armageddon is coming then..

Congrats on your incoming Daughter.....

Alas I forget many people like to be purely entertained when reading.... Pulp Fiction it is..... Twilight Wouldn't touch it with a 3 meter barge pole....

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No that is reserved for the Twilight series...which I still don't understand how in the Gods' names my wife can enjoy. She universally pans the writting and thinks the themes are horrible, but she has also read the series at least 4 times over now.

Frankly I, and she at least espouses this, worry about books like that seeing as how I am going to have a daughter in the next few weeks. I personally don't think it is a particularly enriching reading experience or good that the take away message from the books is that obsessive personalities and stalking relationships are both normal, good and to be wanted.

I really don't want my daughter reading books like that until she is very much old enough to parse out the horse pucky from it all.

As the books would have you believe, you only truely love someone if you are willing to stalk them and conversly someone only really loves you if they stalk you.
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It seems like it is in fashion to dis things that are popular. the Harry Potter series, nay franchise, probably the most popular and best selling books written in most people here's lifetime... and also exteemly popular and top money making movies.

I'm not saying everyone did or had to like it... but give some respect where it is due. The popularity was no fluke, and I for one am sure I will be getting Rowling's new book.

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