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Old 02-16-2012, 10:40 AM   #1
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Book Publishers Force Down Piracy Sites

http://paidcontent.org/article/419-b...-piracy-sites/

Or in the language of the press release, "Foreign Rogue Sites That Earned $10 Million Annually from Copyrighted Content Shut Down by US Publishers and International Alliance." Where can I buy the comic book?!?! (or download it, nudge nudge)

Honestly, though, I don't see anything controversial here. As long as they're not trying to track down users and fine them eleventy-seven thousand monies per page, this action seems appropriate and properly targeted.
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:45 AM   #2
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I have no problem with pirate sites being shut down.
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:58 AM   #3
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Good news. I wonder how many more are going to be coming down in upcoming days.
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:57 AM   #4
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According to the release, the shut-down is the culmination of a long investigation in which the publishers struggled to identify who ran the sites.
Since they knew that they were able to take down sites without SOPA, it strikes me as more than a little dishonest that SOPA was supported in the first place. It's like they took no drastic measures against piracy just to have an excuse to get new laws passed.
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:01 PM   #5
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Since they knew that they were able to take down sites without SOPA, it strikes me as more than a little dishonest that SOPA was supported in the first place. It's like they took no drastic measures against piracy just to have an excuse to get new laws passed.
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Proponents of SOPA used the existence of Megaupload as an example for why SOPA needed to be passed...
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:34 PM   #6
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I'm surprised they haven't gone after that subscription pirate ebook site yet. If anything that's a lot worse than the "come and download everything for free" sites because it's attracting people who are actually prepared to pay for them. Same goes for the people selling second hand ebooks on Ebay.
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Old 02-16-2012, 05:23 PM   #7
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I'm surprised they haven't gone after that subscription pirate ebook site yet. If anything that's a lot worse than the "come and download everything for free" sites because it's attracting people who are actually prepared to pay for them. Same goes for the people selling second hand ebooks on Ebay.
secondhand books!? i hope those thieves get shut down, just like all the thieves reading books in the public library for free. people are just supposed to know that they'll love something and confidently plunk down their $30.

i've already ripped up my vacation photos, i don't want to be accused of stealing tourism dollars one day because i posted the pics on my facebook. why should your eyeballs get a free peek of the world's wonders? buy a plane ticket, thief.

how far do we want to go with this piracy stuff because it literally can get down to my facetious photo scenario. maybe i should stop posting reviews too, my 1 star reviews of books that aren't fit for toilet paper are stealing food right out of authors mouths!



i'm being totally flippant but i can't help it. the whole 'blame piracy,not our business models stuck in the 1800s' approach of publishers just lends itself to lulz.

you have a good point with 'paid' sites. it seems to me that they should be the first targets because the operators are directly profiting from the swindle.

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Old 02-16-2012, 05:31 PM   #8
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So does this mean that, at present in US, free download sites are OK ?
Well, not OK , but you know what I mean....

That the profit motive is the deciding factor ?

Not really commenting, just interested.
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Old 02-16-2012, 05:34 PM   #9
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http://paidcontent.org/article/419-b...-piracy-sites/

Or in the language of the press release, "Foreign Rogue Sites That Earned $10 Million Annually from Copyrighted Content Shut Down by US Publishers and International Alliance." Where can I buy the comic book?!?! (or download it, nudge nudge)

Honestly, though, I don't see anything controversial here. As long as they're not trying to track down users and fine them eleventy-seven thousand monies per page, this action seems appropriate and properly targeted.
only 10 million $$$s? it probably cost publishers far more than that to get the operation going.

even if the publishers had those 10 million smackeroos that were 'stolen' from them they'd probably only pee it away giving snooki or j-wow another book deal anyway
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Old 02-16-2012, 05:36 PM   #10
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What I find fascinating is how often these piracy sites were generating large sums of money from other people's work, which sort of gets rid of the whole "champions of information" reputation they try to create for themselves.
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i'm being totally flippant but i can't help it. the whole 'blame piracy,not our business models stuck in the 1800s' approach of publishers just lends itself to lulz.

you have a good point with 'paid' sites. it seems to me that they should be the first targets because the operators are directly profiting from the swindle.
Have some karma

Paid sites are the real pirates. Making money off this sort of stuff is wrong. However file sharing sites may be closed but others emerge to replace those closed down. It is a pyrrhic victory at best.

Evolve a better business model? Nope, I doubt they could ever conceive the notion let alone implement such change.

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Old 02-16-2012, 06:10 PM   #12
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So does this mean that, at present in US, free download sites are OK ?
Well, not OK , but you know what I mean....

That the profit motive is the deciding factor ?

Not really commenting, just interested.
I don't know about America, but over here making money from it would lift it from a civil case into a criminal case. But I doubt any of them are making anywhere near the amounts that are claimed in advertising fees.
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:15 PM   #13
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What about the supposedly legitimate retailers who advertise on sites that promote piracy? I think that's really outrageous.
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What about the supposedly legitimate retailers who advertise on sites that promote piracy? I think that's really outrageous.
No, you got that wrong. They are doing it on purpose so that those sites can be shut down, because they are making money. And then they complain that they have to pay for advertisement and everybody just ignores the ads, and downloads the book for free instead of following the link to buy it. So they either get customers, or if they don't, they will shut the site down. A win-win situation, right?

Seriously, how can advertising on web pages make so much money? Most every web page has advertisements, I don't even see them, since I have developed a ad-filter in my brain. They blend in into the background noise. When is the last time you actually clicked on an ad? The ones on Youtube are annoying at best if you have to wait 5 seconds to skip them to actually see the movie. I get annoyed by them, I don't even consider clicking on them, even if the content might be interesting. Thank you for DVRs, so I can record my tv-shows, and fast-forward through the ads.
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What about the supposedly legitimate retailers who advertise on sites that promote piracy? I think that's really outrageous.
Mostly specific retailers don't advertise on specific sites. Mostly advertising algorithms target ads to you based on your browsing history and other data, and pay sites based on their traffic with no regard for content.


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Seriously, how can advertising on web pages make so much money?
It obviously works. It's the sole visible means of support for multiple industries.
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