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Old 02-10-2011, 11:57 AM   #1
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Why Amazon Should Update the Kindle Dx

So... here goes.

Originally, the K2 did NOT have native PDF support.

If you dropped a PDF onto the device, it did not work- your only options were to send the file to amazon for conversion, use Calibre or some other type of conversion software like Mobipocket Ebook Creator to make the file into one compatible with the Kindle.

When the DX debuted, it boasted NATIVE PDF support, which really only meant being able to view the document, but that was ok because many PDF's formatting and page numbers are important and not meant for conversion. Amazon ACTED like they understood this and released the KDX.

After a while, the k2 and all other later models got the ability to view pdf's. And then for some INANE reason, the K3 got the ability to use the dictionary, add notes and highlights and change the background contrast.

But the DX had PDF viewing FIRST and again because of it's screen size, was marketed as best for viewing PDF's so why shouldn't it's software be as good or better at HANDLING them as the k3?

I believe the Kindle DXG is the largest E-INK reader on the market right now, and has been for some time.

The Kno tablet(s) is/are a colossus, shiny, not-e-ink demon(s) and the Entourage Edge doesn't count because it's that weird plastic-clamshell combination of tablet and last generation's Vizplex e-ink. Sony's 7-inch reader stands out only because it's just a bit bigger than the standard six inch reader but not big enough to do much with the added screen real-estate. Plastic Logic's Que and Irex's thing have all but vanished into ether, and so by sheer persistance of existence, Amazon's DX is the last, large e-reader standing.

That, I would think using my AMAZING powers of reason, is a coveted position to be in. There is a demand for large screen E-INK readers, due to the clearness of the text, the long battery-life and the ability to view and carry around lots of PDF's because not everything is meant to be converted etc, and Amazon has the only one. And if there WAS no demand for a large screen e-reader, why did Amazon give the DX Graphite evening-wear and update the screen?

DESPITE all this information and placed in an unique position in the ever burgeoning ebook-ereader market, WHY is Amazon pretending the DXG is the illegitimate offspring of a misguided and loveless affair?

I don't believe the DXG's situation can be compared to the k1 or other previous models- the DXG was updated most recently with the Pearl e-ink screen, like I said before, just before the announcement of the K3. If Amazon wasn't making enough sales, why update the thing at all?

Hell, I'll admit the the DX isn't perfect for PDF's- it's screen size isn't the best for PDF's, being a little smaller than a sheet of paper, but if it was made any bigger it would be a good deal heavier, a lot more expensive, I imagine and any larger and they might have to rename it the Kindle Kno, so in the face of those cons, I can deal. But as a large-screened E-reader it is the best one out there; it's so close to perfect for my needs- and I suspect the needs of many others wishing to carry around PDF documents- but then Amazon wont give it the time of day.

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Old 02-10-2011, 12:03 PM   #2
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Old 02-10-2011, 12:06 PM   #3
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I'd say it's due to DXG owners apparent inability to form a cohesive effort to achieve what they want. Case in point: the two identical threads on this subject on the same page of this forum.

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Old 02-10-2011, 12:28 PM   #4
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Mods: Let's take it a step further - I think you should have one thread for all whining, crying and other such nonsense. Only happy thoughts in other threads. And while you are at it, punish anybody that asks a question that has been asked before. How dare they? Who do they think they are?
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Mods: Let's take it a step further - I think you should have one thread for all whining, crying and other such nonsense. Only happy thoughts in other threads. And while you are at it, punish anybody that asks a question that has been asked before. How dare they? Who do they think they are?
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Old 02-10-2011, 12:36 PM   #6
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Mods: Please delete this thread as people have a problem with a concise summarization of the history of the Kindle DX in direct relation to the current upset.

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Old 02-10-2011, 12:59 PM   #7
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So... here goes.

Originally, the K2 did NOT have native PDF support.

If you dropped a PDF onto the device, it did not work- your only options were to send the file to amazon for conversion, use Calibre or some other type of conversion software like Mobipocket Ebook Creator to make the file into one compatible with the Kindle.

When the DX debuted, it boasted NATIVE PDF support, which really only meant being able to view the document, but that was ok because many PDF's formatting and page numbers are important and not meant for conversion. Amazon ACTED like they understood this and released the KDX.

After a while, the k2 and all other later models got the ability to view pdf's. And then for some INANE reason, the K3 got the ability to use the dictionary, add notes and highlights and change the background contrast.

But the DX had PDF viewing FIRST and again because of it's screen size, was marketed as best for viewing PDF's so why shouldn't it's software be as good or better at HANDLING them as the k3?

I believe the Kindle DXG is the largest E-INK reader on the market right now, and has been for some time.

The Kno tablet(s) is/are a colossus, shiny, not-e-ink demon(s) and the Entourage Edge doesn't count because it's that weird plastic-clamshell combination of tablet and last generation's Vizplex e-ink. Sony's 7-inch reader stands out only because it's just a bit bigger than the standard six inch reader but not big enough to do much with the added screen real-estate. Plastic Logic's Que and Irex's thing have all but vanished into ether, and so by sheer persistance of existence, Amazon's DX is the last, large e-reader standing.

That, I would think using my AMAZING powers of reason, is a coveted position to be in. There is a demand for large screen E-INK readers, due to the clearness of the text, the long battery-life and the ability to view and carry around lots of PDF's because not everything is meant to be converted etc, and Amazon has the only one. And if there WAS no demand for a large screen e-reader, why did Amazon give the DX Graphite evening-wear and update the screen?

DESPITE all this information and placed in an unique position in the ever burgeoning ebook-ereader market, WHY is Amazon pretending the DXG is the illegitimate offspring of a misguided and loveless affair?

I don't believe the DXG's situation can be compared to the k1 or other previous models- the DXG was updated most recently with the Pearl e-ink screen, like I said before, just before the announcement of the K3. If Amazon wasn't making enough sales, why update the thing at all?

Hell, I'll admit the the DX isn't perfect for PDF's- it's screen size isn't the best for PDF's, being a little smaller than a sheet of paper, but if it was made any bigger it would be a good deal heavier, a lot more expensive, I imagine and any larger and they might have to rename it the Kindle Kno, so in the face of those cons, I can deal. But as a large-screened E-reader it is the best one out there; it's so close to perfect for my needs- and I suspect the needs of many others wishing to carry around PDF documents- but then Amazon wont give it the time of day.

Saadness.
You should send exactly what you have written to Amazon. You make very good sense from an economic viewpoint. I'd be surprised if Amazon were not working on updates for the KDX. Obviously, though, they are of lower priority than those for the most popular device, the K3. So they will come later? Maybe?
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Old 11-24-2011, 04:07 PM   #10
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I am so glad to see this thread. I saw on Amazon today the discounted Kindle DX 3G for $259.00. Of course my eyes are not what they once were and tire more easily. So, I was about to place an order for my first portable e-reader. And I still might. I do not know much about these devices other than reading all the reviews. The Kindle DX still garners some positive remarks especially for the size of the screen and also the size of the print for mags and periodicals. PDFs matter too. So, I will probably buy one and hope that Amazon is not planning to produce another large screen reader that renders the Kindle DX to the dust bin. If Amazon is walking away from the large screen reader than this reader should be usable for several more years. But it looks like Amazon is about to orphan the DX. Sad if this is true.
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I still think that there is a possibility that Amazon will come out with a DXG Touch wifi/3G in the very near future. Maybe even a Coloured e-ink version within the next 12-18 months, lol!

In the meantime I'll just continue to enjoy my +14 month old DXG. Even without the K3 updates, It's still the best e-reader I've ever owned, and probably all I really ever need for my current purposes.

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That is the big question here --- sell-off to get rid of stock before introducing a new model or just clearing out an (in their estimation, due to relatively slow sales) obsolete product? There are people out there who want big-screen e-readers, the question is, are there enough people to entice Amazon to keep the DX line going?
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The question is... why someone would buy a DXG when you can buy a 10 inch tablet instead, which is faster with PDFs.
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The question is... why someone would buy a DXG when you can buy a 10 inch tablet instead, which is faster with PDFs.
It's the 'easier-on-your-eyes' E-ink of course.

In addition, the DXG is an excellent regular ebook reader. you get ~3-4 times more words per page so lots less page turning.

Once you try one of these little (or not so little) beauties it's pretty hard to go back to a 6 inch screen imho.

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