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Old 11-26-2007, 04:42 PM   #286
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The Myster of PageRank

Why are people so interested in Google's PageRank value? It means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING with respect to a site's quality or content.

PageRank means one thing: Sites link to you. That's it, that's all it means.

Just because a site links to you, doesn't mean your site has any value at all. With the advent of "paid links" and "purchased traffic", the whole meaning of PageRank is diminished.

Frankly, I'm glad that Google has been considering getting rid of PageRank altogether anyway. The notion of backlinks used to have some meaning, but now (like all abuses of the system), it has been overrun by irrelevant, unrelated links.

SEO 2.0 is where everything is heading, and where it should have headed to begin with. Forget optimizing meta tags (note: I've written a tool to do exactly that), forget focusing on backlinks, paid traffic or affiliate programs.

The only way a site continues to be successful and thrive, is through its content. Quality content, brings quality users, who will either return, or link to your site as "authoritative" in its niche.

Or not.

But you have to keep focusing on it. Marketing your niche is a full-time job. You can't just throw a site out there with AdSense ads and walk away, and expect to just cash the checks every month. You need to constantly tweak, rewrite, add/modify, and encourage people to go to the site for the content you have on it.

SEO 2.0 is about organic page relevance. The search engines are getting smarter, and they're now able to analyze trends in the users and the traffic.

They no longer care how many backlinks you have (one of the sites I run has over 23k backlinks and is a PR7), they don't care what your meta tags say, they care what users are visiting your site, at what frequency, and how often they come back, and from what sites they're coming from.

Focus on content, because content is king.

Market your niche, and bring in users, and let those users advertise for you. This is no different than being in the real world selling products. You're selling your site to visitors. It is no different.

PageRank, while a neat way to say "My PR is bigger than your PR", means nothing, if you don't know how to turn that PR into something useful by marketing to those people who link to you, and marketing to the users who sit behind those backlink sites.
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Old 11-26-2007, 08:06 PM   #287
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Some people use PR to determine how much they can ask for a link from their site. I think it was recently that Google penalized a lot of sites, including prominent ones, for selling text links.
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I think this thread is just silly and has no real purpose.
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Old 11-26-2007, 09:22 PM   #289
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I think this thread is just silly and has no real purpose.
Jon, I think it used to have a purpose. If my memory serves me right, this was the first place the algorithm for querying the Google Pagerank was publicly revealed. From there on, all of today's pagerank checker tools emerged.

But I agree with you guys... Pagerank is a relict of the past (when Google was still a lab project).
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:20 AM   #290
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If PageRank was pointless/worthless google wouldn't include it on their toolbar would they? *grin*

PageRank is a result of their algorithm, it's as much a part of Google as the serps. Created by Larry Page, one of the founders of Google. (hence the name? heh), it's not going anywhere.

However, in a way "hacker" is correct, pagerank is purely a webmaster tool.

All you need to really do is focus on your content, and backlinks.
Do NOT focus on PR, because it will get you nowhere fast.

Content is king - get that right, and the rest will follow.

Backlinks are key - why do you think google used to be called backrub? google is built around backlinks.

Enjoy!

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Old 02-10-2008, 04:48 AM   #291
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sorry. double post. same as #292

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Old 02-10-2008, 04:54 AM   #292
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PHP class

Thank you for useful program.

I rewrite to PHP class.
and show green bar same as "Google Toolbar".

demonstration
http://linux.ohwada.jp/demo/google_pagerank/

source code
https://sourceforge.jp/projects/xoop...id=29337#29337
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Old 08-20-2008, 03:53 AM   #293
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Checksum Algorithem Update

http://home.zhiwei.li/pagerank/
(in PHP and Python)

Algorithm for Firefox is easy, for IE is terrible
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Old 10-20-2008, 07:44 AM   #294
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Java??

I tried to get the correct hash number in java but I use an old program that does not work with long url. (http://www.webmasterwords.com/pagerank-checksum-in-java)
Have anyone a java implementation of hash calculus?

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Old 10-20-2008, 09:40 AM   #295
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I tried to get the correct hash number in java but I use an old program that does not work with long url. (http://www.webmasterwords.com/pagerank-checksum-in-java)
Have anyone a java implementation of hash calculus?

Thnaks
Forget PageRank; focusing on it is pointless and it has become an irrelevant measure of ranking your website's "quality" in current times. It served its purpose when it was created, but that purpose is no longer needed now.

Move past it now, everyone else has.
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Old 08-03-2011, 12:11 PM   #296
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Updated with latest code:

http://pagerankviewer.com/
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