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Old 01-21-2012, 10:48 AM   #1
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Kindle DX and Boox M92 comparision

Has anybody got a chance to compare these two in terms of screen as such and displayed text quality?
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I don't think screen quality will differ as they both have pearl screen. But i should mention i only own a DX.

In kindle DX text quality is good. Also you can use any font you want on DX with a simple hack. I guess some kind of a solution is possible for M92 as well.

So screen quality shouldn't be your main concern when deciding on one of these two devices.
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I don't think screen quality will differ as they both have pearl screen. But i should mention i only own a DX.
The DXG and the M92 use exactly the same display (same part number), so any difference should be only software related. Anyhow I can't compare them directly either, since I have only got the M92... sorry
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Has anybody got a chance to compare these two in terms of screen as such and displayed text quality?
I can make a comparison, I have an access to the both devices (but not exactly now). What interests you?

I haven't compared them side by side, but from my weak memory of K. DX, it seems to me, DX has whiter white than M92. But side by side comparison would have to be made to confirm my feeling....
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I would be interested in how the same text looks like on both units; on which one it looks better in terms of being clear, crisp, sharp, presented with better contrast.

Whiher or darker white is also of intrest to me as it is influencing the contrast.

Another thing - speed of turning pages and related to that flashing effect - how noticeable this effect is.
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Not all pearl screens were made the same, I've heard that the new M92 had some low quality *pearl* screens that makes it darker than the older pearl screens. It's why Onyx engineer can't solve the new *dark M92* phenomenon as they've cheapen out on screens to cut marginal cost..

Also rumor has it that for a batch of Kindle DX, Amazon went cheap on the screens, and they were pretty bad that a lots of customers complained endlessly, but hey, I only read that on a forum, no crediblity source (won't be declassified, as it's part of the trading secrets for each company)
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Not all pearl screens were made the same, I've heard that the new M92 had some low quality *pearl* screens that makes it darker than the older pearl screens. It's why Onyx engineer can't solve the new *dark M92* phenomenon as they've cheapen out on screens to cut marginal cost..

Also rumor has it that for a batch of Kindle DX, Amazon went cheap on the screens, and they were pretty bad that a lots of customers complained endlessly, but hey, I only read that on a forum, no crediblity source (won't be declassified, as it's part of the trading secrets for each company)
You are going too far in your aversion towards Onyx.
The display is tops, and reading PDFs is quite ok - while being far behind considering Mantano or EzPDF.
So I think all the users going overboard because they can read PDFs and scribbling are actually right - but serious work can't be done this way.
That no objective tests(by some computer publication) are available, just reviews by the company itself and some users, seems kind of odd ...
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You are going too far in your aversion towards Onyx.
The display is tops, and reading PDFs is quite ok - while being far behind considering Mantano or EzPDF.
So I think all the users going overboard because they can read PDFs and scribbling are actually right - but serious work can't be done this way.
That no objective tests(by some computer publication) are available, just reviews by the company itself and some users, seems kind of odd ...
Yeah, they should really send some samples to major hardware sites...
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I would be interested in how the same text looks like on both units; on which one it looks better in terms of being clear, crisp, sharp, presented with better contrast.

Whiher or darker white is also of intrest to me as it is influencing the contrast.

Another thing - speed of turning pages and related to that flashing effect - how noticeable this effect is.
I will try to do some tests with M92 x K DX. So far I compared M92 and older Kindle (2nd gen.??) (from the same period as DX 2nd) and it seems Kindle is a bit whiter. But it has a dark frame and M92 white. The frame might alter the perception.

Generaly M92 is OK. As I wanted sribling in pdf, M92 or PB 903/912 were the only possible choices AFAIK...
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So, finaly I had the possibility to test M92 and Amazon Kindle DX (2nd gen.) side by side.

The whiteness of white on screen seems to be the same (or at least comparable), if you make a white paper frame to hide gray margins of K DX.

The darkish frame makes the illusion, the K DX's screen is brighter (whiter) than that of M92.

So, the screen seems to be of the same quality, but the perception is different because of different framing.

It is hard to say, what is better. It is probably dependent on user's needs and preferences. I personaly prefer white frame, as I use 'hide margins' mode and the frame serves as white margin of the page. The price for that is a bit grayish white, comparing to dark frame.

But the difference is not big. Both solutions are good and screens well readable.

It is good that M92 will be available in both - white and dark framing.
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Old 02-26-2012, 10:06 AM   #11
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I also have a chance to compare my M92 with my colleague's Kindle DX, and also with my old Hanlin V3.

Hardware quality is exactly the same (superb). I wonder, how long M92's buttons will last... but all in all, all devices represent a high-range quality. (Certainly in the future there might be devices with far better use of materials, for example metal case etc. But currently these devices are built quite good.)

The software of Kindle DX is better written, or, software quality requirements / QA is better in the case of such a huge company. But: I have been a proud owner of an M92 for 5 days, and I had only very little problems with the software (firmware 1.7). Once the pen did not want to work, I had to restart the device with buttons. That's it.

But, the innovative features, usability of M92 are way better than that of Kindle DX: the highlighter pen, scribbling, merging scribbles with PDF, navigation bar are such features which are missing from Kindle a lot. So currently M92 is a way better choice -- if one does not miss the amazon store from his or her device.
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Old 02-26-2012, 10:52 AM   #12
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Sure, I agree. My comparison m92 x DX was only display-wise.

Usability and potential of future development of features (and usability) is without question superior for M92.

(I tested DX a year ago and it didn't meet my needs. I need scribling in text.)
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DXG is born outdated, I would never recommend it to anyone but for reading mobi files.

For pdf, especially the ones made with static images and multi-columns, its very slow and cannot zoom (no reflow). Has never been updated, it could end his life soon (or could be cut in price).

Boox M92 hands down, but I'd wait to see if there is a decent developement for it, before buying

Screen comparison: they are VERY similar. As backgroung and as black intensity and resolution. If you dont like the font in Boox you can change it.

PS: even if hardware (screen-wise) is the same, waveforms management is different, and this has impact on how crisp fonts result.

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