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Old 01-02-2012, 06:31 PM   #1
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Ghosting with "older" versions of the Touch?

Hi, I got a Kobo Touch for Christmas and I love it.

After a few days of reading with it, I returned it due to some problems I was having with shutting it down and then restarting to a screen which had information on the newest update and requested me to setup again. Then I would find out my all my books on it were gone.

Anyways, the first time I exchanged it, I got one that came with a bulkier USB cable. This one wouldn't even through the port on my protective case for it, which I bought from the same store (Chapters). Furthermore, I noticed that ghosting/that five-o-clock shadow was more noticable. I got another exchange only to receive a "version" that had the bulkier USB again. I noticed the same ghosting problems on it.

I feel like almost as if a newer "version" with a slimmer USB in response to the complaints about the USB port on the case was made which also included a Kobo Touch with less noticable ghosting.

Or maybe I'm just crazy?

I have to set the page turns to refresh every 1 page turn I'm okay with, but I'm wondering if refreshing more often drains the battery faster.

http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/ereadi...m_page:richrel

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Old 01-02-2012, 07:19 PM   #2
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What is the page refresh rate set to? Open a book and open the menu select the wrench icon and then Advanced settings.
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Old 01-02-2012, 07:55 PM   #4
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After a few days of reading with it, I returned it due to some problems I was having with shutting it down and then restarting to a screen which had information on the newest update and requested me to setup again. Then I would find out my all my books on it were gone.
Did you ever end up reading much with the 1.9.16 (newest) firmware update on your original machine? I do find that 1.9.16 doesn't clean up the screen as nicely as the older versions of the firmware, so if you updated your later 2, but not the 1st one, you might have noticed it for that reason.
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Old 01-02-2012, 08:52 PM   #5
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OP here, yeah I have set to 1 page refresh now. When it was 3, it was quite noticable, now not so much.

I'm *pretty* sure I installed the update in the first one as well. I mean it's possible I was taken to a screen telling me to setup, with information on update 1.9.16, and I skipped setup and just read in this state, but wouldn't it still be running 1.9.16?

Is there anyway for me to use previous updates instead of the most current one? Or even if I could that, would that be not reccomended due to the loss of faster page turns...

Could Chapters, where I bought it from, just received a bad batch? Although, the Kobo Touches they had on display showed some serioussss ghosting though. Worse than mine, possibly.

EDIT: Could a factory reset/restart the Kobo Touch from the back solve this problem?
EDIT: Furthermore, I have been uploading my own epub books via Calibre. It's the version below what the current one is. Could this be the cause?

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Old 01-02-2012, 09:35 PM   #6
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I'm *pretty* sure I installed the update in the first one as well. I mean it's possible I was taken to a screen telling me to setup, with information on update 1.9.16, and I skipped setup and just read in this state, but wouldn't it still be running 1.9.16?
Sounds like you did get it upgraded. From your post I wasn't sure if you had gotten beyond that point.

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Is there anyway for me to use previous updates instead of the most current one? Or even if I could that, would that be not reccomended due to the loss of faster page turns...
You'll find some posts in the 1.9.16 upgrade thread if you want to try that. Speed difference is subtle more than dramatic. Not sure it's a great option.

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Could Chapters, where I bought it from, just received a bad batch?
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Although, the Kobo Touches they had on display showed some serioussss ghosting though. Worse than mine, possibly.
They likely have older firmware but set to default 6 page refresh. I did a factory reset and forgot to change it back to 1 page and couldn't figure out why my Kobo seemed to have gotten a poor screen until I changed it back.
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EDIT: Could a factory reset/restart the Kobo Touch from the back solve this problem?
EDIT: Furthermore, I have been uploading my own epub books via Calibre. It's the version below what the current one is. Could this be the cause?
Factory reset might help -- sometimes it fixes things that logically it shouldn't be able to. Sideloading with Calibre is highly unlikely to related to your issue. My guess is it's likely primarily related to a less "rigourous" refresh with the current firmware (which is likely a tradeoff to getting faster page turns).
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Old 01-02-2012, 10:15 PM   #7
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I've done a basic reset and a factory reset and I still notice some ghosting. I've contacted Kobo for a replacement/repair. In case anyone was interested:

The last picture is a bit exaggerated because it's set on 6 pages per refresh. The pictures don't really capture how I perceive the ghosting, which is much more severe. >_>

I've downgraded to 1.9.14 and there is still ghosting.

EDIT: I've taken at some pictures of ghosting and I'm not even sure my problem is ghosting. On closer examination, the problem is very thin and faded outlines of text/images from previous pages. It's almost as if they're block letters that aren't filled in.

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