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Old 12-28-2011, 07:48 PM   #1
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Thumbs down HarperCollins is a ripoff in any language

"Harper Collins’ takes a different approach from its competitors in its quest to ripoff Aussie readers. Rather than massively overcharging Australians to prop up their foreign operations, they have gone for a more mixed, global price hike strategy. This does, of course, involve over-charging Australians. But hey, why not take a global stance by overcharging everyone. Not that this should surprise anyone given HarperCollins is owned by Rupert Murdoch’s communications empire.

The price samples below come from an Amazon advanced ebook search by entering Voyager and eliminating the odd (not relevant titles) and books that did not have both Australian and US pricing.

Here’s a summary of the publishing samples I’ve looked at so far:

  • Publisher AUS FOREIGN RIPOFF
  • HarperCollins $10.38 $9.36 111%
  • Hachette $13.82 $8.42 164%
  • MacMillan $16.42 $8.66 190%
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Old 12-29-2011, 12:27 AM   #2
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Add New Zealand to that list too. We are also ripped off.
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I think it is more usual to list the extra cost as the percentage, and not the total cost; so with your first example, I make this a 11% ripoff in Oz, not 111%. To me a 111% ripoff would be an Oz price of $21.90 - then you really would be crying into your beer ;-)
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The $21.90 is probably the price Macmillan would charge!
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Add New Zealand to that list too. We are also ripped off.
Are your prices the same, adjusting for exchange rate? Would be interesting to know how much Murdoch is ripping off your lot, too.
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The $21.90 is probably the price Macmillan would charge!
William Heineman - or whoever does their ebooks - charged $50 for Gauntanamo: My Journey by David Hicks when it first came out. This was the same price as the hardback.
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Wow. You expect non-fiction to be more expensive, but they probably were counting the sales for that one in binary!
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Are your prices the same, adjusting for exchange rate? Would be interesting to know how much Murdoch is ripping off your lot, too.
If you tell me the exact names and authors of the books you're looking at I'll look them up and tell you.
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Here's the list, with authors from the HarperCollins sample :-




A A Bell - Diamond Eyes
A A Bell - Hindsight
Anne Bishop - Belladonna
Anne Bishop - Bridge of Dreams
Anne Bishop - Daughter of the Blood
Anne Bishop - Dreams Made Flesh
Anne Bishop - Heir to the Shadows
Anne Bishop - Pillars Of The World
Anne Bishop - Queen of Darkness
Anne Bishop - Sebastian (Landscapes of Ephemera)
Anne Bishop - Shadows and Light
Anne Bishop - Shalador's Lady
Anne Bishop - Tangled Webs A Black Jewels Novel
Anne Bishop - The House of Gaian
Anne Bishop - The Invisible Ring
Anne Bishop - The Shadow Queen
Anne Bishop - Twilight's Dawn
Arthur C. Clarke and Frederik Pohl - The Last Theorem
Arthur C. Clarke and Stephen Baxter - The Light of Other Days
Bevan McGuiness - Revenant Book Three of The Eleven Kingdoms
Bevan McGuiness - Scarred Man
Bevan McGuiness - Slave of Sondelle
Bevan McGuiness - The Awakening (Triumvirate Trilogy)
Bevan McGuiness - The First Weapon (Triumvirate Trilogy)
Bevan McGuiness - The Way of Purity (Triumvirate Trilogy)
Blake Charlton - Spellbound (Spell 2)
Blake Charlton - Spellwright
Cinda Williams Chima - The Demon King
Cinda Williams Chima - The Exiled Queen (Seven Realms Trilogy 2)
Cinda Williams Chima - The Gray Wolf Throne (Seven Realms 3)
Clive Barker - Abarat (Abarat Quartet 1)
Clive Barker - Abarat 2 Days of Magic Nights of War (Abarat Quartet 2)
Clive Barker - Books of Abarat (3) - Absolute Midnight
Clive Barker - Cabal
Clive Barker - Coldheart Canyon
Clive Barker - Mister B. Gone
Clive Barker - Sacrament
Clive Barker - The Great and Secret Show (Voyager Classics)
Clive Barker - The Hellbound Heart
Clive Barker - Weaveworld (Voyager Classics)
David Chandler - Ancient Blades Trilogy (1) - Den of Thieves (Ancient Blades Trilogy 1)
David Chandler - Ancient Blades Trilogy (2) - A Thief in the Night (Ancient Blades Trilogy 2)
David Chandler - Ancient Blades Trilogy (3) - Honour Among Thieves (Ancient Blades Trilogy 3)
David Eddings - Domes of Fire Book One of The Tamuli (Tamuli Trilogy 1)
David Eddings - The Diamond Throne Book One of the Elenium (Voyager Classics)
David Eddings - The Hidden City Book Three of The Tamuli (Tamuli Trilogy 3)
David Eddings - The Ruby Knight Book Two of the Elenium (Elenium 2)
David Eddings - The Sapphire Rose Book Three of the Elenium (Voyager Classics)
David Eddings - The Shining Ones Book Two of The Tamuli (Tamuli Trilogy 2)
David G. Hartwell and Kathryn Cramer - Year's Best SF 17
Drew Magary - The End Specialist
Duncan Lay - The Radiant Child The Dragon Sword Histories Bk 3
Duncan Lay - The Risen Queen
Duncan Lay - The Wounded Guardian
Fiona McIntosh - Betrayal
Fiona McIntosh - Destiny
Fiona McIntosh - Emissary (Percheron Trilogy)
Fiona McIntosh - Goddess (Percheron Trilogy)
Fiona McIntosh - King's Wrath Valisar Book Three
Fiona McIntosh - Myrren's Gift
Fiona McIntosh - Odalisque (Percheron)
Fiona McIntosh - Revenge
Fiona McIntosh - Tyrant's Blood
Gardner Dozois and George R. R. Martin - Songs of the Dying Earth
Gardner Dozois and Jonathan Strahan - The New Space Opera 2
Gardner Dozois George R. R. Martin and Daniel Abraham - Hunter's Run
George R. R. Martin - A Clash of Kings Book 2 of A Song of Ice and Fire (Song of Ice & Fire 2)
George R. R. Martin - A Dance With Dragons Book 5 of A Song of Ice and Fire (Song of Ice & Fire 5)
George R. R. Martin - A Feast for Crows Book 4 of A Song of Ice and Fire (Song of Ice & Fire 4)
George R. R. Martin - A Game of Thrones Book One of Songs of Fire and Ice (Song of Ice and Fire)
George R. R. Martin - A Storm of Swords Complete Edition (Two in One) Book 3 of A Song of Ice and Fire
Glenda Larke - Song Of The Shiver Barrens (Mirage Makers)
Glenda Larke - Stormlord Rising
Glenda Larke - Stormlord's Exile Watergivers Book Three
Glenda Larke - The Last Stormlord
Glenda Larke - The Shadow Of Tyr (Mirage Makers)
Guy Gavriel Kay - A Song for Arbonne
Guy Gavriel Kay - Lord of Emperors
Guy Gavriel Kay - Sailing to Sarantium
Guy Gavriel Kay - The Last Light of the Sun
Guy Gavriel Kay - The Lions of Al - Rassan
Guy Gavriel Kay - Tigana
Guy Gavriel Kay - Under Heaven
Guy Gavriel Kay - Ysabel
Jack Dann and Jonathan Strahan - Legends of Australian Fantasy
Jan Siegel - Prospero's Children
Jan Siegel - The Dragon - Charmer
Jan Siegel - Witch's Honour
Janet Edwards - Earth Girl
Janny Wurts - The Wars of Light and Shadow (1) - Curse of the Mistwraith
Janny Wurts - The Wars of Light and Shadow (2) - The Ships of Merior (The Wars of Light and Shadow series)
Janny Wurts - The Wars of Light and Shadow (3) - Warhost of Vastmark (The Wars of Light and Shadow series)
Janny Wurts - The Wars of Light and Shadow (4) - Fugitive Prince First Book of the Alliance of Light Fugitive Prince Bk. 1 (The Wars of Light and Shadow series)
Janny Wurts - The Wars of Light and Shadow (5) - Grand Conspiracy Second Book of The Alliance of Light Grand Conspiracy Bk. 2 (The Wars of Light and Shadow series)
Janny Wurts - The Wars of Light and Shadow (6) - Peril's Gate Third Book of The Alliance of Light (The Wars of Light and Shadow series)
Janny Wurts - The Wars of Light and Shadow (7) - Traitor's Knot Fourth Book of The Alliance of Light Traitor's Knot Bk.4 (Wars of Light & Shadow 7)
Janny Wurts - The Wars of Light and Shadow (8) - Stormed Fortress Fifth Book of the Alliance of Light Stormed Fortress Bk. 5
Janny Wurts - The Wars of Light and Shadow (9) - Initiate's Trial First book of Sword of the Canon 1 (The Wars of Light and Shadow series)
Janny Wurts - To Ride Hell's Chasm
Jennifer Fallon - Eye of the Labyrinth Second Sons Trilogy
Jennifer Fallon - Harshini (Demon child trilogy)
Jennifer Fallon - Lion of Senet Second Sons Trilogy
Jennifer Fallon - Lord of the Shadows Second Sons Trilogy
Jennifer Fallon - The Chaos Crystal
Jennifer Fallon - The Dark Divide
Jennifer Fallon - The Gods Of Amyrantha (Tide Lords)
Jennifer Fallon - The Immortal Prince (Tide Lords)
Jennifer Fallon - The Palace Of Impossible Dreams (Tide Lords)
Jennifer Fallon - Undivided
Jennifer Fallon - Warrior The Hythrun Chronicles Book Two
Jennifer Fallon - Wolfblade
Joel Shepherd - Breakaway
Joel Shepherd - Crossover
Joel Shepherd - Killswitch
Joseph Nassise - By the Blood of Heroes The Great Undead War Book I
Julian May - Conqueror's Moon Part One of the Boreal Moon Tale (Boreal Moon Tale 1)
Julian May - Sky Trillium
Julian May - Sorcerer's Moon Part Three of the Boreal Moon Tale (Boreal Moon Tale 3)
K J Taylor - The Griffin's Flight
K J Taylor - The Griffin's War Fallen Moon Book Three
K. E. Mills - Witches Incorporated
K. E. Mills - Wizard Squared
Karen Miller - A Blight of Mages
Karen Miller - Empress Of Mijak (Godspeaker)
Karen Miller - Hammer Of God (Godspeaker)
Karen Miller - Innocence Lost (Kingmaker Kingbreaker)
Karen Miller - The Innocent Mage (The Kingbreaker)
Karen Miller - The Prodigal Mage
Karen Miller - The Reluctant Mage
Karen Miller - The Riven Kingdom (Godspeaker)
Katharine Kerr - A Time of Exile (Deverry Cycle Westlands 1)
Katharine Kerr - Dragonspell The Southern Sea (Deverry Cycle 4)
Katharine Kerr - Snare
Katharine Kerr - The Fire Dragon (Deverry Dragon Mage 3)
Katharine Kerr - The Red Wyvern Book One of the Dragon Mage (Deverry Dragon Mage 1)
Katharine Kerr - The Silver Mage (Deverry Cycle 15)
Katharine Kerr - The Spirit Stone (Deverry Silver Wyrm 2)
Kevin Hearne - Hammered
Kevin Hearne - Hexed
Kevin Hearne - Hounded
Kim Falconer - Arrows of Time
Kim Falconer - Journey by Night Quantum Encryption Bk 3
Kim Falconer - Path of the Stray Quantum Encryption Bk 1
Kim Falconer - Road to the Soul Quantum Encryption Bk 2
Kim Falconer - The Spell of Rosette (Quantum Enchantment)
Kim Harrison - A Fistful of Charms (Rachel Morgan 4)
Kim Harrison - A Perfect Blood (The Hollows)
Kim Harrison - Dead Witch Walking (Rachel Morgan 1)
Kim Harrison - Every Which Way But Dead with Bonus Material (Rachel Morgan)
Kim Harrison - For A Few Demons More (Rachel Morgan 5)
Kim Harrison - Pale Demon (Rachel Morgan 9)
Kim Harrison - The Good The Bad and The Undead (Rachel Morgan 2)
Kim Harrison - White Witch Black Curse (Rachel Morgan 7)
Kim Stanley Robinson - Galileo's Dream
Kim Westwood - The Courier's New Bicycle
Kim Westwood - The Daughters of Moab
Kylie Chan - Blue Dragon (Dark Heavens Trilogy)
Kylie Chan - Earth to Hell Journey to Wudang Bk 1
Kylie Chan - Heaven to Wudang Journey to Wudang Bk 3
Kylie Chan - Hell to Heaven Journey to Wudang Bk 2
Kylie Chan - Red Phoenix (Dark Heavens Trilogy)
Kylie Chan - White Tiger (Dark Heavens Trilogy)
Lauren DeStefano - Fever
Leigh Eddings and David Eddings - Belgarath the Sorcerer
Leigh Eddings and David Eddings - Crystal Gorge (Dreamers 3)
Leigh Eddings and David Eddings - Polgara the Sorceress (Belgariad)
Leigh Eddings and David Eddings - The Elder Gods (Dreamers 1)
Leigh Eddings and David Eddings - The Redemption of Althalus
Leigh Eddings and David Eddings - The Rivan Codex Ancient Texts of The Belgariad and The Malloreon
Leigh Eddings and David Eddings - The Treasured One
Leigh Eddings and David Eddings - The Younger Gods
Marcus Pelegrimas - Extinction Agenda (Skinners)
Maria Quinn - The Gene Thieves
Mark Lawrence - Prince of Thorns
Mary Victoria - Oracle's Fire
Mary Victoria - Samiha's Song Chronicles of the Tree Bk 2
Mary Victoria - Tymon's Flight Chronicles of the Tree Bk 1
Meg Cabot - Insatiable
Megan Lindholm - Harpy's Flight
Megan Lindholm - Luck of the Wheels
Megan Lindholm - The Limbreth Gate (The Ki & Vandien Quartet)
Megan Lindholm - The Reindeer People
Megan Lindholm - The Windsingers
Megan Lindholm - Wizard of the Pigeons
Megan Lindholm - Wolf's Brother
Michael Marshall Smith - Voyager Classics - Only Forward
Mickey Zucker Reichert - To Protect I Robot Book 1
Naomi Novik - Black Powder War (Temeraire 3)
Naomi Novik - Empire of Ivory Bk. 4 (Temeraire 4)
Naomi Novik - Temeraire (Temeraire 1)
Naomi Novik - Throne of Jade (Temeraire 2)
Naomi Novik - Tongues of Serpents (Temeraire 6)
Naomi Novik - Victory of Eagles (Temeraire 5)
Nicole Murphy - Power Unbound Dream of Asarlai Book Two (Dream of Asarlai 2)
Nicole Murphy - Rogue Gadda Dream of Asarlai Book Three
Nicole Murphy - Secret Ones Dream of Asarlai Book One
Paul Garrety - The Emerald Tablets
Paul Garrety - The Seventh Wave
Peter V. Brett - The Desert Spear (Demon Trilogy 2)
Peter V. Brett - The Great Bazaar and Brayan's Gold
Peter V. Brett - The Painted Man (Demon Trilogy 1)
Raymond E. Feist - A Kingdom Besieged (Midkemian Trilogy 1)
Raymond E. Feist - At the Gates of Darkness (Demonwar Saga 2)
Raymond E. Feist - Krondor Tear of the Gods Book Three of the Riftwar Legacy (Riftwar Legacy 3)
Raymond E. Feist - Krondor The Assassins Book Two of the Riftwar Legacy (Riftwar Legacy 2)
Raymond E. Feist - Krondor The Betrayal Book One of the Riftwar Legacy (Riftwar Legacy 1)
Raymond E. Feist - Rides A Dread Legion The Demonwar Saga Bk. 1 (Demonwar Saga 1)
Raymond Feist - Wrath of a Mad God Darkwar Book 3
Rhonda Roberts - Gladiatrix
Rhonda Roberts - Hoodwink
Richard Kadrey - Aloha from Hell
Richard Kadrey - Kill the Dead
Richard Kadrey - Sandman Slim
Robin Hobb - Assassin's Apprentice Book One of the Farseer Trilogy
Robin Hobb - Assassin's Quest Book Three of the Farseer Trilogy
Robin Hobb - Fool's Errand Book One of the Tawny Man
Robin Hobb - Fool's Fate Book Three of the Tawny Man (Tawny Man 3)
Robin Hobb - Forest Mage Book Two of the Soldier Son Trilogy (Soldier Son Trilogy 2)
Robin Hobb - Renegade's Magic Book Three of the Soldier Son Trilogy
Robin Hobb - Royal Assassin Book Two of the Farseer Trilogy
Robin Hobb - Ship of Destiny Book Three of The Liveship Traders (Liveship Traders 3)
Robin Hobb - Ship of Magic Book One of The Liveship Traders (Liveship Traders 1)
Robin Hobb - The Golden Fool Book Two of the Tawny Man (Tawny Man 2)
Robin Hobb - The Inheritance
Robin Hobb - The Mad Ship Book Two of The Liveship Traders (Liveship Traders 2)
Robin Hobb - The Rain Wild Chronicles (1) - Dragon Keeper
Robin Hobb - The Rain Wild Chronicles (2) - Dragon Haven (Rain Wild Chronicles 2)
Robin Hobb - The Rain Wild Chronicles (3) - City of Dragons
Russell Kirkpatrick - Across The Face Of The World (Fire of Heaven)
Russell Kirkpatrick - Dark Heart (Husk)
Russell Kirkpatrick - In The Earth Abides The Flame
Russell Kirkpatrick - Path Of Revenge (Husk)
Russell Kirkpatrick - The Right Hand of God
Sabrina Benulis - Archon (The Books of Raziel)
Sara Douglass - Battleaxe
Sara Douglass - Beyond the Hanging Wall
Sara Douglass - Crusader
Sara Douglass - Darkwitch Rising
Sara Douglass - Druid's Sword
Sara Douglass - Enchanter
Sara Douglass - Hades' Daughter (The Troy game)
Sara Douglass - Pilgrim
Sara Douglass - Sinner
Sara Douglass - StarMan (The Axis trilogy)
Sara Douglass - The Crippled Angel
Sara Douglass - The Devil's Diadem
Sara Douglass - The Infinity Gate
Sara Douglass - The Nameless Day (Crucible trilogy)
Sara Douglass - The Serpent Bride (Darkglass Mountain)
Sara Douglass - The Twisted Citadel
Sara Douglass - The Wounded Hawk
Sara Douglass - Threshold
Sean Williams and Shane Dix - The Prodigal Sun (Evergence)
Stacia Kane - Downside Ghosts (3) - City of Ghosts (Downside Ghosts 3)
Stacia Kane - Sacrificial Magic Book Four of The Downside Ghosts series
Stephen Hunt - From the Deep of the Dark (Jackelian 6)
Stephen Hunt - Jack Cloudie
Stephen Hunt - Secrets of the Fire Sea
Stephen Hunt - The Court of the Air
Stephen Hunt - The Kingdom Beyond the Waves
Stephen Hunt - The Rise of the Iron Moon
Steven Gould - Jumper
Stuart B. MacBride - Halfhead
T. H. White - The Once and Future King
Tananarive Due - My Soul to Keep (African Immortals)
Tanith Lee - Metallic Love
Tansy Rayner Roberts - Power and Majesty
Tansy Rayner Roberts - Reign of Beasts
Tansy Rayner Roberts - The Shattered City
Tee Morris and Pip Ballantine - Phoenix Rising A Ministry of Peculiar Occurrences Novel
Tee Morris and Pip Ballantine - The Janus Affair A Ministry of Peculiar Occurrences Novel (Unti Ballantine Morris)
Terry Goodkind - The Omen Machine
Tony Shillitoe - Prisoner Of Fate
Tony Shillitoe - Solitary Journey (Dreaming in Amber)
Tony Shillitoe - The Demon Horsemen (Dreaming in Amber)
Traci Harding - An Echo in Time Atlantis (Ancient Future)
Traci Harding - Being of the Field
Traci Harding - Book of Dreams
Traci Harding - Chronicle of Ages
Traci Harding - Gene Of Isis (The Mystique Trilogy)
Traci Harding - Ghostwriting Tales of the Supernatural
Traci Harding - Masters of Reality The Gathering
Traci Harding - Tablet of Destinies
Traci Harding - The Alchemist's Key
Traci Harding - The Ancient Future The Dark Age
Traci Harding - The Black Madonna (The Mystique Trilogy)
Traci Harding - The Cosmic Logos
Traci Harding - The Dragon Queens (The Mystique Trilogy)
Traci Harding - The Light - field
Traci Harding - The Universe Parallel
Trudi Canavan - Last of the Wilds Age Of The Five Trilogy
Trudi Canavan - The High Lord (Black Magician Trilogy)
Trudi Canavan - The Magician' s Guild (Black Magician Trilogy)
Trudi Canavan - The Novice (The black magician trilogy)
Vicki Pettersson - The Taken Celestial Blues
Will Elliott - Pilgrims
Will Elliott - Shadow
Will Elliott - World's End
William Gibson - Burning Chrome
William Gibson - Mona Lisa Overdrive
William Gibson - Neuromancer

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OK - here's a few picked at random, priced at kobobooks because they are in NZ dollars

A A Bell - Diamond Eyes - $16.69 = USD 12.88
Cinda Williams Chima - The Exiled Queen (Seven Realms Trilogy 2) $17.89 = USD13.81
Clive Barker - Books of Abarat (3) - Absolute Midnight $23.59 = USD 18.21
Guy Gavriel Kay - A Song for Arbonne + his others $10.59 = USD8.17
Janny Wurts - The Wars of Light and Shadow (9) = $16.79 USD12.96, all the rest $11.59 (USD 8.94)

Hachette are my nemesis, their prices are really high:

For example John Grisham’s book – The Litigators is available at kobo for $34.99 NZD (that’s around $27 USD!)

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What the heck!

These prices are horrendous. ;-(
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