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Old 11-15-2007, 02:31 PM   #1
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Why is the Ebookwise 1150 a Legacy Device? -- Please note: it's *not* anymore :)

Instead of banned people lets talk about an almost banned but seemingly resurrected device. What makes it a Legacy? It is not obsolete, it is still being sold as new, it is currently enjoying support for books in the eBooks section of the site.

Some people are worried about buying one because MobileRead calls it a Legacy device which is assumed to make it obsolete or no longer being made or supported since that is true of every other device in the category.

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Old 11-15-2007, 02:35 PM   #2
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That's an excellent question, DaleDe, and (I think) they're allegedly working on a successor to the venerable 1150. Personally, I could probably be talked into considering it a long-standing, but current device.
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Well, until you showed up there wasn't an advocate for the device. It appeared that the existing 1150 owners didn't mind being sidelined.
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Old 11-15-2007, 05:53 PM   #4
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Instead of banned people lets talk about an almost banned but seemingly resurrected device. What makes it a Legacy? It is not obsolete, it is still being sold as new, it is currently enjoying support for books in the eBooks section of the site.

Some people are worried about buying one because MobileRead calls it a Legacy device which is assumed to make it obsolete or no longer being made or supported since that is true of every other device in the category.

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He's right, you know. The IMP version of most ebooks is sometimes more popular than Mobipocket.

Heck, how can it be a legacy device if it's the third most common device on this forum? (I bet it's actually the second most common.)\

I am going to go add it to the Wiki.
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MobileRead calls it a Legacy device which is assumed to make it obsolete or no longer being made or supported
Is it still being manufactured? I thought eBookwise was selling off old stock from the Gemstar days. (The units say Gemstar; they just have eBookwise logos pasted over it.) Units are being sold and supported, yes, and the firmware's been updated, but I didn't think any factory was still turning out ETI-2s.
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I believe that E-Book Technologies, Inc. (AKA ETI) is still making them (could easily be mistaken).

They're definitely looking at a future e-ink device, but I hope they end up doing something other than the generic PVI model that they have pictured as their prototype.
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Old 11-15-2007, 10:50 PM   #7
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I believe that E-Book Technologies, Inc. (AKA ETI) is still making them (could easily be mistaken).

They're definitely looking at a future e-ink device, but I hope they end up doing something other than the generic PVI model that they have pictured as their prototype.
Yes, if ETI did an E Ink device that incorporated some of the nicer features of the 1150, they would have a winner.
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Yes, if ETI did an E Ink device that incorporated some of the nicer features of the 1150, they would have a winner.
You think so? I rather get the impression the REB fans are primarily in the "if it doesn't have a backlight it's worthless" camp. That's certainly a viewpoint that's been rather, er, forcibly expressed in the past . These are people who don't WANT eInk because you can't read it in the dark.

One thing that makes it a "legacy device" is the fact that (as I understand) it uses SmartMedia cards for storage. I don't believe that SmartMedia cards are still made, even if the machine itself is.
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They're not cheap, but they can be found on Ebay.
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Yes, I know. Just saying that, by my personal definition (and other people may well have their own different ones) any device which uses storage media which is no longer manufactured has to be considered a legacy device.
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Yes, I know. Just saying that, by my personal definition (and other people may well have their own different ones) any device which uses storage media which is no longer manufactured has to be considered a legacy device.
I do not know for sure, but I am pretty sure that they are still being manufactured.
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To quote from the Wiki Article on Smartmedia cards:

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SmartMedia cards no longer appear to be produced by either Toshiba or Samsung, and rebadged versions are no longer being sold by companies such as Lexar and Sandisk. As such, SmartMedia cards are becoming increasingly challenging to find.
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Smartmedia memory cards are no longer manufactured, old stocks of new 128mb can be obtained from specialist suppliers while supplies last but are disappearing fast and as demand is still quite high for these cards, the prices are rising. The current price for a 128MB card on eBay is about £30 ($60 USD Approx; €50 Approx).
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In that case, where is Ebookwise getting them? I strongly doubt that they would sell them retail without a wholesale source. At the very least they would job it out to a small manufacturer.

P.S. I just checked Ebay. There are enough different sellers that someone has to be still making them.
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I wouldn't know. Just reporting what I'd previously heard, and what the Wiki article reports.
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You think so? I rather get the impression the REB fans are primarily in the "if it doesn't have a backlight it's worthless" camp. That's certainly a viewpoint that's been rather, er, forcibly expressed in the past . These are people who don't WANT eInk because you can't read it in the dark.

One thing that makes it a "legacy device" is the fact that (as I understand) it uses SmartMedia cards for storage. I don't believe that SmartMedia cards are still made, even if the machine itself is.
Now, why would ETI build a brand new E Ink device, use SmartMedia and only market to existing customers? Sounds rather silly, doesn't it?

What I was saying is that if they introduced a modern E Ink reader (similar to everyone else's), but also included some of the interface elements that their older unit has, that would be good. Personally, I liked the two large buttons for paging. Also, some aspects of the software interface were very easy to use. Of course, the old units required a stylus, so ETI would either have to add a touch screen, or change things to work without one.
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