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Old 12-03-2011, 12:33 AM   #1
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Unhappy Formatting Problems 11/22/63

I recently purchased and am currently reading 11/22/63 by Stephen King. Although I find it a very enjoyable read so far, I am very unhappy with its formatting. Most formatting is acceptable, but for some reason there is no spacing between the last italicized word and the first non-italicized word. As you know if you've read 11/22/63, there are MANY instances of italicized words in the book - probably more use of italics than I've ever seen.

The same problem happens with a phrase that is all capital letters, such as newspaper headlines. Again, there is no space between the last word with all capital letters and the first word with regular case letters.

I have sent an email to Kobo to see if I can get a refund or if perhaps a different version has been uploaded, which I doubt.

Has anybody else experienced these problems with this book?

Thanks.
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Old 12-03-2011, 01:04 PM   #2
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I honestly can't remember being distracted by any formatting issues while I was reading it. And that sort of thing usually jumps out at me. *shrugs*
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Old 12-04-2011, 04:25 AM   #3
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I'm having the exact same problems and it IS very distracting. Although I'm loving the book!! I've only downloaded books right from the kobo website and this is the first time I've had a book have so many errors.
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Old 12-04-2011, 04:53 AM   #4
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I'm having the exact same problems and it IS very distracting. Although I'm loving the book!! I've only downloaded books right from the kobo website and this is the first time I've had a book have so many errors.
It's clearly a production error. What did the publisher say when you reported it to them?
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Old 12-04-2011, 10:04 AM   #5
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Harry- I haven't reported it to the publisher, only to Kobo, who I haven't heard back from yet. I find interesting that another Kobo customer has the same problem, but I haven't seen any other complaints about it. Perhaps most people accept it as yet another example of poor ebook formatting and ignore it.

If it were a random error it might be less distracting, but it happens every time there is a word in italics, of which there are many.

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Old 12-04-2011, 10:05 AM   #6
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Harry- I haven't reported it to the publisher, only to Kobo, who I haven't heard back from yet. I find interesting that another Kobo customer has the same problem, but I haven't seen any other complaints about it. Perhaps most people accept it as yet another example of poor ebook formatting and ignore it.

If it were a random error it might be less distracting, but it happens every time there is a word in italics, of which there are many.

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It's nothing to do with Kobo - it's the publisher who produces the book. They are the ones who need to be notified of the errors.
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If it were a random error it might be less distracting, but it happens every time there is a word in italics, of which there are many.
"Every time," I would have definitely noticed... so the same issue obviously didn't afflict the Kindle version.
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Old 12-04-2011, 11:37 AM   #8
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"Every time," I would have definitely noticed... so the same issue obviously didn't afflict the Kindle version.
A problem restricted to the ePub version of the book, perhaps?
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Old 12-04-2011, 08:26 PM   #9
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Harry- I've sent an email to the publisher to voice my complaints, so we'll see what they have to say- if anything. Hopefully they're aware of the problem and have started correcting it. If not, then I may need my first ebook refund.

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Old 12-05-2011, 08:29 AM   #10
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I read the Kindle version as well, and I don't remember any such problems. If someone with the ePub version can direct me to a location I will gladly check.
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Old 12-05-2011, 12:16 PM   #11
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Quake- I don't have a location but the first instance starts very early: the first sentence of the third paragraph, of the book. The narrator is quoting his ex-wife saying "I have never seen you cry". The word "never" is in italics and there is no space between never and seen. Thus it winds up "I have neverseen you cry". This happens every time there's a word in italics, so I frequently have to re-read the words to see where the break should be.

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Those words in that passage are clearly delineated in my Kindle copy.

Is there any chance that the ePub version is using an embedded (alternate) font for its main text? I know I've run across several cases where the kerning on certain fonts makes it look like there's no space between the last letter of an italicized word and the first letter of the next (un-italicized) word. In those cases, I've often gone to the effort of correcting the "mistake," only to find that there was, indeed, a space there.

Not that that would excuse the publisher, mind you. A space you can't see, isn't really a space after all. I'm just curious.
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What did the publisher say when you reported it to them?
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It's nothing to do with Kobo - it's the publisher who produces the book. They are the ones who need to be notified of the errors.
I see what you did there
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I have 11/22/63 in ePub. I've not yet started reading it. But, I just did a quick look at some of the italics and I don't have a problem. The italics have proper spaces where needed. The above example in my edition is just fine. Maybe it's an issue with the copy send to Kobo?

I have also checked out the sample ePub from B&N and the italics look OK to me.

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A problem with no space between the end of italic and beginning of normal text is a font metric problem. The last italic letter is leaning into the space where the space would be. Proper kerning or hinting should account for this common problem. So this Kobo's issue, not the publisher. Try changing to another font if your reader has other fonts.

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