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Old 11-20-2011, 05:13 PM   #106
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Thanks I have the opposite problem. My sideloaded mobi books even with Pdoc tag show up in books and not docs.

I think it's the method I am using. I am downloading in Dropbox, then I move it to the Books folder then I open the book in File Expert and choose for it to open in Kindle.

Before I had to reboot to get them to show up but now I just do the above. SCION was the one who showed me how to do this.
If you do not want them to show up in "Books" then you need to put them into the "documents" folder on the kindle. (i think the pdoc tag works to keep personal documents from displaying in the books shelves, but may or may not include programming for placement into the documents folder on the kindle hd.)
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If you do not want them to show up in "Books" then you need to put them into the "documents" folder on the kindle. (i think the pdoc tag works to keep personal documents from displaying in the books shelves, but may or may not include programming for placement into the documents folder on the kindle hd.)
They are in the documents folder and still show up in books. I know they carry the pdoc tag too. The only ones that show up in documents is the ones I email to my kindle.
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They are in the documents folder and still show up in books. I know they carry the pdoc tag too. The only ones that show up in documents is the ones I email to my kindle.
hmmmm... curiouser and curiouser.

My brother and I have been futzing with this, I'm wondering if its method related as you suggest. When I sideload books by manually placing them in the docs folder, I see them in the documents folder on the kindle for a short while, and then they disappear. Shutting down and restarting they are still not visible from on the device itself. Books that get put into the Documents folder from calibre's "send to device method" do not have this visibility problem as far as I can tell. The other thing we've been playing with is re-converting ebooks in calibre and then placing them on the fire via different methods. There seems to be some inconsistency in the inclusion of covers that gets cleaned up if you reconvert your source file. Perhaps a reconvert (again) in calibre would help.

if any of that is helpful to you I'll be surprised, but sometimes brainstorming can be useful so I thought I'd put it out there.
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hmmmm... curiouser and curiouser.

My brother and I have been futzing with this, I'm wondering if its method related as you suggest. When I sideload books by manually placing them in the docs folder, I see them in the documents folder on the kindle for a short while, and then they disappear. Shutting down and restarting they are still not visible from on the device itself. Books that get put into the Documents folder from calibre's "send to device method" do not have this visibility problem as far as I can tell. The other thing we've been playing with is re-converting ebooks in calibre and then placing them on the fire via different methods. There seems to be some inconsistency in the inclusion of covers that gets cleaned up if you reconvert your source file. Perhaps a reconvert (again) in calibre would help.

if any of that is helpful to you I'll be surprised, but sometimes brainstorming can be useful so I thought I'd put it out there.
I don't know... They have pdoc tags in them but it could be something to do with Calibre. It's okay though I read more non Amazon books then anything. If we ever get the Pdoc cloud then that will fix it but right now they all go on the book shelf when I sideload via dropbox.
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I email them to myself via Calibre. I was upset they didn't show up in books, and then I reaized this would be a good way to find them. It doesn't bother me enough to go through the trouble of reconverting them. And now I got movies to sideload, too! As soon as I get my cover, my kindle and I are going to watch movies on the train!
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I email them to myself via Calibre. I was upset they didn't show up in books, and then I reaized this would be a good way to find them. It doesn't bother me enough to go through the trouble of reconverting them. And now I got movies to sideload, too! As soon as I get my cover, my kindle and I are going to watch movies on the train!
Yes that seems to be only way to get them to show up in documents. If you sideload them another way they show up in books at least mine do.
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I have been emailing books to my Fire via Calibre. No matter what I do (PDOC out, EBOK in, PDOC in) the book shows up on the carousel and then in docs. I cannot get them to show up in books. Except 2 have shown up in books.

What we really need to figure out (I mean someone smarter than me) is how to edit that @#%@#$ carousel. If I accidentally open a book, if I download a racy free book, they show up on that darn carousel!
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I have been emailing books to my Fire via Calibre. No matter what I do (PDOC out, EBOK in, PDOC in) the book shows up on the carousel and then in docs. I cannot get them to show up in books. Except 2 have shown up in books.

What we really need to figure out (I mean someone smarter than me) is how to edit that @#%@#$ carousel. If I accidentally open a book, if I download a racy free book, they show up on that darn carousel!
Anything you email to the Fire is going to show up in docs. To get them to show up in books you need to sideload them either using LAN feature on ES File Explorer, Dropbox or some other method that is like it. They wont show up though until either you restart or follow this tutorial.

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To get them to show up in books you need to sideload them either using LAN feature on ES File Explorer, Dropbox or some other method that is like it. They wont show up though until either you restart or follow this tutorial.
When you connect the Fire to a PC via a usb cable does the Fire appear as a mass storage device? If so can you create folders then drag and drop files to the Fire's sd card? I'm a mite confused as to sideloading apps. The Fire is still on my want list.

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The user storage portion (called "SDCard", even though it's just a chunk of memory) shows up as a drive on your PC. You can copy files there. Sideloading the application requires not just copying it there but then installing it, which is a separate step, after which you can delete the file you just copied.

There are other ways of copying the files over, including directly accessing via WiFi if you have WiFi already set up.
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Thanks. But those racy free books I 1-clicked on are still in the carousel.

I would be happy if I could just get another screen to come up when I start the darn thing. My mil is coming down for Thanksgiving, and I don't want her to see this.
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Thanks. But those racy free books I 1-clicked on are still in the carousel.

I would be happy if I could just get another screen to come up when I start the darn thing. My mil is coming down for Thanksgiving, and I don't want her to see this.


One other thing you could try is to delete the book from the Fire and then download again once she leaves.

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One other thing you could try is to delete the book from the Fire and then download again once she leaves.

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It wont work if it's in your archive. My only advice it too order alot free public domain books to put in front of them. That way they are farther behind. Be sure to complain to Amazon via their feedback app on the Fire about this so they will fix it.
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Thanks. But those racy free books I 1-clicked on are still in the carousel.

I would be happy if I could just get another screen to come up when I start the darn thing. My mil is coming down for Thanksgiving, and I don't want her to see this.
Wow, usually the children trying to hide stuff from Mom, not so much vice versa!

If they are in the Archive call CS and explain situation. I bet they will help out. Perhaps in the future you can download them to the computer via K4PC and modify them by changing the cover to something generic via calibre then sideload them.

I sure hope Amazon gets this whole carousel mess cleaned up and sorted out. Currently it is a royal PITA. A simple toggle switch to turn it On/Off would be a much requested and needed start!
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Wow, usually the children trying to hide stuff from Mom, not so much vice versa!

If they are in the Archive call CS and explain situation. I bet they will help out. Perhaps in the future you can download them to the computer via K4PC and modify them by changing the cover to something generic via calibre then sideload them.

I sure hope Amazon gets this whole carousel mess cleaned up and sorted out. Currently it is a royal PITA. A simple toggle switch to turn it On/Off would be a much requested and needed start!
I have those racy covers too. I don't know what my MIL will say during Christmas.
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