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Old 11-10-2011, 12:33 PM   #16
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The thing is it still has more than the Fire spec-wise but the Fire does have the content right out of the box. Dunno, I prefer the Nook myself from what I've read so far. Add in 15 minutes of rooting and you get better content than EITHER device stock, as well as the better hardware the Nook comes with.

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For a "Tablet" device it really needs all, or at least most of, the other hardware specified in the Android 2.3 Compatibility Definition.
The Nook Tablet is missing cameras and a GPS; but then, so did the iPad 1 WiFi. Did that mean the iPad wasn't a real tablet? And iPad 2 WiFi is still missing a GPS. Not a real tablet?
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Lulz, good points.
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The Nook Tablet is missing cameras and a GPS;
If you read the Android 2.3 Compatibility Definition you will see that it is missing much more than that.
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but then, so did the iPad 1 WiFi. Did that mean the iPad wasn't a real tablet? And iPad 2 WiFi is still missing a GPS. Not a real tablet?
I did not buy those either.
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Old 11-11-2011, 10:49 AM   #20
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The reason Kindle Fire gets so much attention is the content. Amazon will be able to offer a pretty extensive library of music and video. That is much more important to the majority of consumers than hardware specs.

Amazon is positioning themselves to compete directly with Apple. B&N has little hope of doing that at this point.
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If they really want to compete with Apple, Amazon needs a larger device.
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If they really want to compete with Apple, Amazon needs a larger device.
And international sales and support! The Fire would be pretty worthless to me and I am only in Canada (and they aren't even offering the touch or fire kindles here yet). Even the Nook Tablet is catering to the US (and all nooks for that matter). I am not sure if it would work with Canadian Netflix, but it sucks anyway, and we can't get Hulu (unless you use a vpn). But at least the Nook has expandable memory so I could store my own media. The Amazon Cloud is useless here.
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I have the original nook color, a kindle 3 and an Ipad 2. I ordered a KF a month ago but cancelled a few days later. Don't know what the heck I was thinking. If I can wait for a new phone for two years, I can wait for a tablet with better specs. A faster processor ain't going to cut it. I think I'll hold out and see what the competion does when the ipad 3 comes out.

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Old 11-12-2011, 11:58 AM   #24
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Funny, I was wondering the same thing.

I wonder if it has to do with the idea that the Nook tablet, aside from internal hardware bumps, really isn't that much different from the Nook Color. When the NC came out, there was a lot of buzz because of the upgrade from the original Nook to the NC. The Nook Color -> Nook Tablet bump just doesn't seem that significant, considering that the Nook Color is receiving a similar software upgrade.

The Kindle III -> Kindle Fire is comparable with the original Nook -> Nook Color upgrade we had a year ago, so that's generating the buzz.

I love my Nook Color, and don't see the need to upgrade to the Nook Tablet yet.
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I wonder if it has to do with the idea that the Nook tablet, aside from internal hardware bumps, really isn't that much different from the Nook Color. When the NC came out, there was a lot of buzz because of the upgrade from the original Nook to the NC. The Nook Color -> Nook Tablet bump just doesn't seem that significant, considering that the Nook Color is receiving a similar software upgrade.

The Kindle III -> Kindle Fire is comparable with the original Nook -> Nook Color upgrade we had a year ago, so that's generating the buzz.
original Nook -> Nook Color and Kindle III -> Kindle Fire aren't upgrades - they're different products altogether. You're sorely underestimating the "under the hood" upgrades of the Nook Tablet over the Nook Color. The Nook Tablet not only has a faster processor, it also features a longer battery life and lighter weight. I already like the form factor of the Nook Color. I find it quite comfortable to hold although I'd appreciate an even lighter weight compared to the Nook Tablet.

Look at the iPhone 3G and the 3GS. Both of them received the iOS 4 update but while the 3GS is running fairly smoothly, the 3G was almost unusable. There are also some apps that don't work on the 3G.

Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that the Nook Tablet will be able to support Netflix/Hulu HD while the original Nook Color wouldn't? In both cases, I'm inclined to believe the faster hardware (or perhaps a different dedicated hardware decoder) is the reason given my experience with both Netflix and Hulu on the PC (darned CPU-heavy pre-Silverlight 5 and Flash 10.1).
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I have a Sony 950 and so can't see a need for the Nook tablet for me. However, the Nook tablet does have a feature which may compel me to buy it -- the ability to record a reading of a book for grandchildren. I think that is a particularly nifty feature, and is the only feature that entices me to buy something in addition to my Sony 950.
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original Nook -> Nook Color and Kindle III -> Kindle Fire aren't upgrades - they're different products altogether. You're sorely underestimating the "under the hood" upgrades of the Nook Tablet over the Nook Color. The Nook Tablet not only has a faster processor, it also features a longer battery life and lighter weight. I already like the form factor of the Nook Color. I find it quite comfortable to hold although I'd appreciate an even lighter weight compared to the Nook Tablet.

Look at the iPhone 3G and the 3GS. Both of them received the iOS 4 update but while the 3GS is running fairly smoothly, the 3G was almost unusable. There are also some apps that don't work on the 3G.

Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that the Nook Tablet will be able to support Netflix/Hulu HD while the original Nook Color wouldn't? In both cases, I'm inclined to believe the faster hardware (or perhaps a different dedicated hardware decoder) is the reason given my experience with both Netflix and Hulu on the PC (darned CPU-heavy pre-Silverlight 5 and Flash 10.1).
You're misunderstanding how I used the word "upgrade". I understand that they're different products; they're an "upgrade" from a buyer's perspective, to go from the older, B&W product to a color tablet with more functionality.

I'm not sorely underestimating the under the hood changes- quite frankly, it's not enough to entice *me* to upgrade from my Nook Color. The Nook tablet will be able to play Neflix / Hulu in HD, while the Nook Color will "only" be able to play SD- but I don't care about the lack of HD. As always, YMMV.
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At some point I bet they will. And Apple will be forced to offer a smaller device. 9+" rules for home use, but for me 7" is the best compromise of size and portability.
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Already have a Nook Color. I don't use it as a tablet that much, mostly as an ereader. If most people are like me, then there is no point in upgrading to the Nook Tablet. If I wanted to stream movies through Netflix, then I might be tempted to upgrade. Even then, if I don't care about HD movies, the Nook Color will get an update, so that it will have Netflix. The only difference that I see between the NC and Tablet is faster processor, more RAM and storage. In terms of content, the NC and Tablet will have the same. Maybe that is why people that own a Nook Color are not talking about it that much. If I didn't have a NC, I would probably pay the $50 premium and get the Tablet instead of a NC, but already owning a NC, I cannot justify buying the Tablet.

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