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Old 10-04-2011, 03:39 PM   #31
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Oddly enough, that was the exact demo they showed.
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As for the iPhone 4s, HAHAHAHA!!! 'Nuff said.
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Same phone! Nothing changed (nothing major)

Apple will sue the iPhone 3GS ... the 4S is basically the same, nothing changed,
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Sorry, you are mistaken here. The iPhone 4s is magical, and changes everything, again!
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Oddly enough, that was the exact demo they showed.
Great! Now if only she had an iPhone...

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Well that was underwhelming. It looks like I'll be purchasing the Samsung Galaxy S II.
I'm thinking seriously about it, to replace my current Android cellphone of course. But I will buy it unlocked, the European version.
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Great! Now if only she had an iPhone...

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Still hard to believe the voice stuff can work as well as the demos show, but I guess we'll see.
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Aside from raw power, the Siri addition seems to be the real differentiator. A couple of nice pages I've found.

Comparison between iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S

Apple's Siri page

Intriguingly, from the latter:

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Siri is available in Beta only on iPhone 4S and requires Internet access. Siri may not be available in all languages or in all areas, and features may vary by area. Cellular data charges may apply.
I assume that means that the results of Siri's searches might need the internet, rather than that Siri needs the internet to operate at all (e.g. set your alarm clock in a hotel bedroom with no wifi or roaming), but Beta?

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I assume that means that the results of Siri's searches might need the internet, rather than that Siri needs the internet to operate at all (e.g. set your alarm clock in a hotel bedroom with no wifi or roaming), but Beta?
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Yeah, the whole "needs the Internet" would make sense if they needed to offload processing to servers, but then they wouldn't need the A5 chip req.
Hopefully its just the Wolfram Alpha access that needs the internet.
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Digging deeper into the background, Siri was available as an app, not as fully-integrated with all phone features, but available for the iPhones 3 and 4, but that's now been pulled and the servers will be taken down on October 15th.

http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/04/the...ervers-killed/

I don't know whether the improved Siri requires hardware features not available on the iPhone 4, but taking the servers down for existing users of the older application does look a bit mean and simply intended to drive users to the 4S.

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Digging deeper into the background, Siri was available as an app, not as fully-integrated with all phone features, but available for the iPhones 3 and 4, but that's now been pulled and the servers will be taken down on October 15th.

http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/04/the...ervers-killed/

I don't know whether the improved Siri requires hardware features not available on the iPhone 4, but taking the servers down for existing users of the older application does look a bit mean and simply intended to drive users to the 4S.

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Probably should have pulled the app when they bought out Siri.
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I knowan Iphone user who uses Siri, and she really likes it. . )
wait until she finds out that she wont be able to use the Siri ap any more
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wait until she finds out that she wont be able to use the Siri ap any more
I'm assuming she'll get that functionality back when ios5 debutes . I don't think there is any particular hardware neccessary for the functioning of the voice command features, save maybe RAM and processor power. I expect Apple might admonish device users that those devices with less capable hardware than the 4S will experience lesser functionality.

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