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Old 09-27-2011, 08:17 AM   #91
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Maybe the people who didn't like the links don't feel comfortable speaking up? Maybe an anonymous poll is the answer?
The silence on the detractor front and the silence on the "further explanation" front has become quite deafening, hasn't it?
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Old 09-27-2011, 09:34 AM   #92
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Maybe we need "moderators" for the moderators.

It is a shame that a few disgrunted people can ruin a forum for the rest of us.
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Old 09-27-2011, 10:16 AM   #93
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Yes, it's ridiculous that a few petty people are allowed to dictate policy that negatively effects the rest of us.

I used to check the Kindle freebie thread twice a day to see the updates. Now I have to seek out individual threads in this subforum and sift through duplicate listings. So annoying.
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Old 09-27-2011, 10:18 AM   #94
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The new policy needs to be reconsidered and reversed by folks who are interested in the welfare of this bulletin board.

Thanks!
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Old 09-27-2011, 10:32 AM   #95
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I feel like maybe HarryT could come talk to us? He mentioned in my thread in the Writer's Forum that he had a moral problem with undisclosed affiliate links, so maybe he could explain the opposition viewpoint and why this "special thread" format is considered necessary. He's a moderator, so he wouldn't get jumped on as a "complainer" -- we all know he works hard around here and people respect his opinion as a mod.

And if there is some "legal" reason why they have to do it this way, he would know and would be able to tell us.

Could somebody maybe PM him and ask him to come talk to us? Or is that too forward?
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Old 09-27-2011, 11:11 AM   #96
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Not to be part of the herd but I also liked the old system and thought it worked just fine*

* But I'm on the outside looking in and may be missing out on the internal reasoning for the policy change.

I think the new approach may create duplication or confusion...or I may just be a fuddy-duddy who resists change.

If a link -- affiliate or not -- directs me to a good book I will enjoy, I don't begrudge the person who posted it getting their dime. I trust myself to be discerning enough to determine what is worth my money and don't blindly buy something just because there is, gasp!, an unlabeled affiliate link to it.
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Old 09-27-2011, 11:27 AM   #97
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Maybe the people who didn't like the links don't feel comfortable speaking up?
If they're not comfortable defending an opinion that a large number of us obviously think has led to making this forum a lot more difficult to use and navigate, they should have kept quiet in the first place.

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Maybe we need "moderators" for the moderators.
I respectfully disagree. If this site works like others I have been to in the past, the moderators don't set policies, they only enforce them. Even if they do set the policies, they tend to do what they do because they think it will make things better. Being a forum moderator is a busy, time-consuming, and often thankless job. The few who remain moderators once the initial glamor wears off are the ones who genuinely care and want to help the community.

Whatever the reason for the change, the site admin or moderators who made the decision did it because they thought it was the best thing to do. I would still have preferred to force disclosure in unique threads, and would very much prefer some more openness and disclosure. But let's not start harping on the moderators as if they deliberately wanted to make things worse.

Blame the ones who ran to mommy and cried, if you have to blame someone. The moderators are just doing their job. And as much as we'd like to think otherwise, they don't owe us any answers or explanations. It would be nice to get them anyway, but let's not try to pretend this is a democracy. Or that we have the same rights as paying subscribers would.

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Old 09-27-2011, 11:32 AM   #98
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You sounded just like a republican congressman.
You know the rules, Jon. If you want to make political comments, do so in the Politics and Religion forums, not here.
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Old 09-27-2011, 11:47 AM   #99
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You know the rules, Jon. If you want to make political comments, do so in the Politics and Religion forums, not here.
I'm glad a moderator is reading this thread, but extremely disappointed that THIS is what got responded to, rather than all the questions and comments about the new policy.
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Old 09-27-2011, 12:25 PM   #100
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Total over reaction.

Just have them list in the first post for the freebie that they're an afffilate. Those who object can then just not click on the link, and will have the title and author to search on their own.

I think this needs another re-look by TPTB, as it just seems totally unnecessary.
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Old 09-27-2011, 12:26 PM   #101
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Blame the ones who ran to mommy and cried, if you have to blame someone. The moderators are just doing their job. And as much as we'd like to think otherwise, they don't owe us any answers or explanations. It would be nice to get them anyway, but let's not try to pretend this is a democracy. Or that we have the same rights as paying subscribers would.
I agree that we're not owed explanations. In fact, I would be happy to pay a subscription for this site and not just to have a say in policy

I just get the feeling that there's a lot more to this than what we realize. I can't help but wonder if it was not just the number of complaints but who was doing the complaining....

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Old 09-27-2011, 12:36 PM   #102
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I know that this isn't a democracy, and that's fine with me. Democracies on the internet rarely work well. And I do appreciate the Moderation team and GREATLY appreciate them for all the unpaid work they put in to making this site awesome.

However, it would be nice to have someone respond to this thread, especially since so many people have asked why the "old way" + "in-post disclosure" wouldn't have worked just as well. Maybe there's a super good reason. But... it would be nice to hear what it is.
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Old 09-27-2011, 12:37 PM   #103
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I agree that we're not owed explanations. In fact, I would be happy to pay a subscription for this site and not just to have a say in policy
I wouldn't. I will consider paying for a site who treats its community with respect, and I haven't seen a lot of that in this thread. Not yet, anyway.
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Old 09-27-2011, 12:42 PM   #104
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I agree that we're not owed explanations. In fact, I would be happy to pay a subscription for this site and not just to have a say in policy

I just get the feeling that there's a lot more to this than what we realize. I can't help but wonder if it was not just the number of complaints but who was doing the complaining....
Of course we are not *owed* an explanation. I ran a private marble collectors forum a couple of years ago and my rule was "My site, my rules", but I still listened to my members.

I do find the lack of even comments from moderators strange.
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Old 09-27-2011, 12:44 PM   #105
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I wouldn't. I will consider paying for a site who treats its community with respect, and I haven't seen a lot of that in this thread. Not yet, anyway.
I'm sorry you feel that the community is not respected.

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